By the way, if Dutch law is so wonderful, why was dreamer_marie so wholly unwilling to say anything to defend it? Why did she try to silence me with the disgraced "hate speech" tag, instead of finding something to say? Perhaps she is, at bottom, not quite so self-deluded as you are; perhaps her stay outside of the Nether, very nether, lands, has exposed her to at least enough alien viewpoints not to be quite so sure of glib excuses and rationalizations.