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Once again, A CURSE ON THE PARTY SPIRIT
Is there anything else that would lead people to accept and defend complete rubbish, to hold up stuff that demeans their own intellect, to insult anyone who disagrees, and, worst of all, to completely abandon any shred of critical attitude, insisting that that which flatters our party positions is therefore sacred and untouchable?
I have come to the edge of a break with people I really like, and that is not the first time. But damn it to Hell, what do they expect me to - falsify my own life experience and the history of my country (on which every Italian alive or dead would answer as I do), accept a thesis that is not just false but obviously false, not just politically motivated but obviously politically motivated, and that for no reason except in order to preserve a personal relationship? If that were the case, that would be emotional blackmail. And yet I see no other reason for the rabid and repetitious attacks I have been subjected since I attacked a certain instance of American pamphleteering. It is as if someone were telling me that no peaceful relationship with them is possible unless I give in to their delusions. And that I not only will not, but cannot do.
Edited in: I imagine that the lurkers and wankers who were still following this LJ only a few weeks back will decide to hold back on this argument. It is the sort of thing they love, is it not - FPB arguing with someone? Only in this case it is not the kind of argument they want to present; it would not answer their prejudices, and might even lead their fans to wonder who is in the right after all.
Sometimes I really get tired.
I have come to the edge of a break with people I really like, and that is not the first time. But damn it to Hell, what do they expect me to - falsify my own life experience and the history of my country (on which every Italian alive or dead would answer as I do), accept a thesis that is not just false but obviously false, not just politically motivated but obviously politically motivated, and that for no reason except in order to preserve a personal relationship? If that were the case, that would be emotional blackmail. And yet I see no other reason for the rabid and repetitious attacks I have been subjected since I attacked a certain instance of American pamphleteering. It is as if someone were telling me that no peaceful relationship with them is possible unless I give in to their delusions. And that I not only will not, but cannot do.
Edited in: I imagine that the lurkers and wankers who were still following this LJ only a few weeks back will decide to hold back on this argument. It is the sort of thing they love, is it not - FPB arguing with someone? Only in this case it is not the kind of argument they want to present; it would not answer their prejudices, and might even lead their fans to wonder who is in the right after all.
Sometimes I really get tired.
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And my point was that Mussolini's Socialism was not a teen-age infatuation.
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For the love of all that's holy, if you'd just STOP obsessing over it and posting AGAIN and AGAIN, maybe people would stop "bothering" you by bringing up the book!
There are tons of books that bug me, but you'll notice I don't post on them obsessively; do you see me doing a monthly on the "Golden Compass"? How about "The da Vinci Code"? Those both seem to fit the level of sheer rage you have, but after I post a rebuttal, I move on! Yes, there are still folks that think Dan Brown is a historian-- WHO CARES?!?!?
How many F*ing points do you have? Your point is that socialism and fascism don't have the same root, your point is that "Mussolini's Socialism was not a teen-age infatuation", your point is that the blogosphere has group-think.... I'm sure there are some that I've missed.
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That is, if you really are interested in this at all. For your information, it's not I who is keeping this going.
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Already.
Did.
Remember, back when you accused me of not reading it because I hadn't posted and I linked to my reply in that very topic?
Yes, it is you who is keeping it going-- you just KEEP bring UP the bloody topic, you equate it with the most famous anti-Semitic text known, you slander everyone who disagrees with you as being a nasty political hack, and you can't even be bothered to refute the actual book; I say once again, this is like Mr. Derbyshire's ( http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGYwMzdjOWRmNGRhOWQ4MTQyZDMxNjNhYTU1YTE5Njk= ) amazing refutation of a film he had not seen.
This will be my last reply to this topic, because I'm sick and tired of re-typing portions of the bloody book. For all I know, you *might* even be right--but, given your refusal to respond in the rational manner, by doing a refutation of the actual words, we can't know.
I'm not even all that interested in the bloody topic, I am simply interested in the skill you USUALLY have when writing and a bit disturbed to see it seem to flee you on a topic the deaf can hear your views on.
You SHOULD be able, if you are right, to write a da Vinci Code style, point by point refutation with quotes--then, when people "accept and defend complete rubbish, to hold up stuff that demeans their own intellect, to insult anyone who disagrees, and, worst of all, to completely abandon any shred of critical attitude, insisting that that which flatters our party positions is therefore sacred and untouchable" you can simply send them to that refutation, rather than wonder if they expect you to "falsify my own life experience and the history of my country (on which every Italian alive or dead would answer as I do), accept a thesis that is not just false but obviously false, not just politically motivated but obviously politically motivated, and that for no reason except in order to preserve a personal relationship." That will serve several purposes-- give you a chance of convincing folks, get this off your chest and be one heck of a read to boot. My mom once told me that if you open up with "shut up, you ignorant idiot" you're not going to enlighten anyone, and you'd better serve your side with silence.
Folks who have a personal relationship with you--if that's the correct phrase for knowing you online? (not really sure)-- know that you hold strong views, and that you're usually really good at defending them. I know that I accept that, and heaven knows I don't expect you to agree with me on most things, but watching you launch an attack for an insult not even delivered offends my sense of style and makes me wonder what topic there is that unhinges my writing skill--and if anyone would be able to tell.