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fpb ([personal profile] fpb) wrote2008-06-25 11:25 pm
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books meme

"The Big Read reckons that the average adult has only read 6 of the top 100 books they've printed."
1) Look at the list and bold those you have read.
2) Italicize those you intend to read.
3) Underline the books you LOVE.
4) Strike out the books you have no intention of ever reading, or were forced to read at school and hated.NB: since I do not know how to strikethrough a piece of text, I will just write NO WAY alongside.
5) Reprint this list in your own LJ


1 Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
2 The Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
3 Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte
4 The Harry Potter Series - JK Rowling
5 To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee
6 The Bible
7 Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
8 Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
9 His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman NO WAY
10 Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
11 Little Women - Louisa M Alcott
12 Tess of the D'Urbervilles - Thomas Hardy
13 Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
14 Complete Works of Shakespeare
15 Rebecca - Daphne Du Maurier
16 The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien
17 Birdsong - Sebastian Faulks
18 Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
19 The Time Traveller's Wife - Audrey Niffenegger
20 Middlemarch - George Eliot
21 Gone With The Wind - Margaret Mitchell
22 The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald
23 Bleak House - Charles Dickens
24 War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
25 The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
26 Brideshead Revisited - Evelyn Waugh
27 Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
28 Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
29 Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll
30 The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame
31 Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
32 David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
33 Chronicles of Narnia - CS Lewis
34 Emma - Jane Austen
35 Persuasion - Jane Austen
36 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe - CS Lewis
37 The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini
38 Captain Corelli's Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres NO WAY
39 Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden
40 Winnie the Pooh - AA Milne
41 Animal Farm - George Orwell
42 The Da Vinci Code - Dan Brown NO WAY
43 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
44 A Prayer for Owen Meaney - John Irving
45 The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins
46 Anne of Green Gables - LM Montgomery
47 Far From The Madding Crowd - Thomas Hardy
48 The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood NO WAY
49 Lord of the Flies - William Golding (My feelings about this one are complicated. It is a masterpiece, but so horrifying I will not read it again)
50 Atonement - Ian McEwan
51 Life of Pi - Yann Martel
52 Dune - Frank Herbert
53 Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons
54 Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen
55 A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
56 The Shadow of the Wind - Carlos Ruiz Zafon
57 A Tale Of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
58 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley maybe
59 The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time - Mark Haddon
60 Love In The Time Of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
61 Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
62 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
63 The Secret History - Donna Tartt
64 The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold
65 Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
66 On The Road - Jack Kerouac
67 Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
68 Bridget Jones's Diary - Helen Fielding
69 Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie
70 Moby Dick - Herman Melville
71 Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens
72 Dracula - Bram Stoker
73 The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
74 Notes From A Small Island - Bill Bryson
75 Ulysses - James Joyce tried once or twice
76 The Bell Jar - Sylvia Plath
77 Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome
78 Germinal - Emile Zola
79 Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray
80 Possession - AS Byatt
81 A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
82 Cloud Atlas - David Mitchell
83 The Color Purple - Alice Walker
84 The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro
85 Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert Tried once
86 A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry
87 Charlotte's Web - EB White
88 The Five People You Meet In Heaven - Mitch Albom
89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
90 The Faraway Tree Collection - Enid Blyton
91 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
92 The Little Prince - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
93 The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
94 Watership Down - Richard Adams
95 A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
96 A Town Like Alice - Nevil Shute
97 The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
98 Hamlet - William Shakespeare
99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald Dahl
100 Les Miserables - Victor Hugo

[identity profile] expectare.livejournal.com 2008-06-25 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read 35. o.O

38 Captain Corelli's Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres NO WAY

Weirdly, I was just wondering yesterday if you'd ever read Corelli's Mandolin. Why no way?

[identity profile] tashmania.livejournal.com 2008-06-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this meme :-) A few thoughts: it actually made me smile to see 'The Little Prince' bolded and underlined on your list. Would you recommend The Three Musketeers? (I assume so, as you've underlined it, but I thought I would check!) Also, I finished Captain Corelli's Mandolin yesterday, and I think I have an inkling as to why you don't intend to read it.

Oh, and if you ever need to know for the future, how to strikethrough text:
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I like this meme :-) A few thoughts: it actually made me smile to see 'The Little Prince' bolded and underlined on your list. Would you recommend The Three Musketeers? (I assume so, as you've underlined it, but I thought I would check!) Also, I finished Captain Corelli's Mandolin yesterday, and I think I have an inkling as to why you don't intend to read it.

Oh, and if you ever need to know for the future, how to strikethrough text:
<strike*> text here </strike*>
Take out the stars and it will strike out whatever text is between the two :-)

[identity profile] tashmania.livejournal.com 2008-06-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, why has it done that?? It's supposed to be incorrect. Silly LJ.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-25 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I have it on good authority (my sister) that it's full of pseudo-Italian ethnic cliches. And the very fact that the title mentions the cliche of cliches, the mandolin, does not encourage me.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-25 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The Three Musketeers will either draw you right in and never let you go or bore you to death. Two great writers, CS Lewis and Hijja, have both said that they could see no point to it at all. So I really do not know whether to recommend it or not. I like it, but you might not.

As for the Mandolin, check what I said to [profile] nicked_metal, above.
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[identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
The Lord of the Flies... exactly same reaction. It's brilliant, but it leaves scars (only Atwood's Handmaid's Tale hit me even harder)

[identity profile] tashmania.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I have a copy lying about so I shall give it a try :-)

Ah yes, the cliche point was pretty much what I had suspected. The book is very well-written overall and I am glad I read it, but it does seem to rely on a few too many stereotypes as the basis for a fair few of the characters. As an irrelevant aside, I'm now looking to see the film but I fear I may struggle in watching it for the sole reason that there is no way I can see Nicolas Cage playing the lead convincingly. I just can't. We shall see.

[identity profile] expectare.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
THE FILM IS HERESY AND WE SHALL BURN IT AT THE STEAK

AND THEN EAT STAKES AFTERWARD

I like the book. The movie made me angry.

[identity profile] expectare.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't notice that so much (didn't even know that the mandolin was a supposedly common Italian accoutrement!).
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[identity profile] jennilee.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
What does the maybe mean? You can't remember if you've read Brave New World?

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
No, that I just might read it, but that I do not feel the need to so keenly as, for instance, in the matter of Tolstoy or Donna Tartt or Thackeray.

[identity profile] stigandnasty919.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
It is the 'No Way's" that are interesting to me. You've explained Capt Corelli, and I can quite understand the inclusion of DaVinci Code - I feel as if Dan Brown owes me payment for the time I wasted reading his drivel, but I'd be interested in knowing why Margaret Atwood is on the list.

This meme reminded me of why I both like and detest my involvement in book groups. It was through a group that I first read Steinbeck and Waugh (although I hated Brideshead, I liked others). But I also read DaVinci Code and Lovely Bones, a book that repulsed me more than almost any other I have read apart from "Blood and Guts in High School" by Kathy Acker

[identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, you mean you've never actually read "His Dark Materials"?!

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
I read the two first chapters of The Amber Spyglass. It was far more than enough. And, mind you, I hated it before I even began to realize that it had anything to say about Christianity. I simply could not bear the style. Of course, when I found out what it was meant to say, I was pleased.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
First, I dislike distopias on principle and taste both. Second, if I want to hear Christianity insulted, I will at least go to someone who knows something about it, and who, like Nietzsche, has something interesting to say.

[identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, I know it's ancient history, but when you flamed me for praising HDM, I was convinced you'd read the whole thing and had based your opinion on a good understanding of the story. I think this is rather poor form, really! If you're gonna hate something so much, at least read the whole thing to make sure you haven't got the wrong end of the stick.

I mean, seriously. Wouldn't you have a thing or two to say to anyone who flamed a book you loved, which they'd only read a small part of?

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
[profile] stigandnasty919, below, has the exact same reaction; as he said in his meme, "how can you love and be repulsed by a book at the same time?" I guess that is a common reaction to Golding. It may have something to do with what Brian Alldiss, in a conversation with Kingsley Amis and CS Lewis, identified as the characteristic of Golding's style: "...a hallucinatory vividness." Both Lewis and Amis agreed (Lewis: "...all those details you only notice in real life if you've got a high temperature...")

Incidentally, you might want to friend [profile] stigandnasty919: he is a very intelligent native of the country you research, and a nice bloke altogether.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
You are a doctor. Never mind whether you have your degree just yet, you have years of experience and theory behind you. You do not need to sit through six hours of pain to see when a procedure or operation is being badly botched; in fact, your self-respect and your care for your patients will not let you look on without protesting much earlier. Well, I have been a writer for longer than you have been alive. It is my trade. I know it. I knew practically from the moment I started on the first chapter of The Amber Spyglass that this man was a fake; that he wrote, as I repeatedly said, not for children but for literary reviewers, indulging in a big fat sequence of descriptive writing to show off his mighty "creative-writing" skills - a sequence which, where children are concerned, would simply be wasted time. Even where children do like description, and not all of them do, a few words are enough. You have to remember that the writer is supposed to collaborate with the reader, working to activate the reader's mind rather than to force-feed it. And of all readers, there are none who need less effort to be activated, than children. They only need some indication of setting and time, to supply their own vision. They live in imagination to a much greater extent than adults do. This is one area where JK Rowling shows her supreme excellence in this field. She rarely spends more than one or two sentence in description - and yet, we all feel we know Hogwarts. She allows our own imagination to run riot, and, in a sense, makes us all children again. As compared with her, stylistically and narratively, Pullman is both a dictator and a fraud. And I wish you would read what a more successful writer than myself, [profile] johncwright, had to say about his plotting.
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[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
About The Three Musketeers: make sure that it is an uncut edition. As a boy, I was handed an edition where all the affairs of d'Artagnan, Athos, Porthos, and Aramis, were cut out; as a result, half the fun and three-quarters of the sense of the story were simply not there, and I only came to understand their reason when I read a full edition twenty years later.

[identity profile] helixaspersa.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Don't know about the pseudo-Italian stuff, but it is certainly terrible. But then I'm feeling raw about this as my best friend had a reading from it at her wedding on Saturday - apparently quite a popular choice - that was so *excruciatingly* dreadful that I am still recovering.

[identity profile] stigandnasty919.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
The dislike of Distopias on principle interests me, could you explain.

Obviously i'm coming from a different stand point than yourself, but I didn't pick up on any insult to Christianity in Handmaiden's Tale, rather the abuse of the teachings of Christianity. I'll have to look at it again and see.

[identity profile] helixaspersa.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
I have read all of the HDM sequence but I agree with you at least to the extent that it's monstrously over-rated; he is a better writer than he is a thinker, but he's still not a particularly good writer. But then I'm afraid that's roughly my feeling about HP as well (all of which I have also read) - only that I am less irritated by them because those books are so much more honest about what they are and are not claiming to be.

Maybe I should do this meme.

[identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
My issue isn't with the fact that you don't like his writing style. My issue is with the fact that you picked up a book, opened it in the middle, and then decided you knew everything it was about, and actually presumed to lecture people who'd read the entire thing and loved it. I remember thinking, when reading your interpretation of the story, that it seemed like you and I had read an entirely different book. And it turns out I was right! I'd read His Dark Materials, by Phillip Pullman. You'd read a couple of chapters from the middle of the story, and a whole lot of discussion by other people about the story.

I accept that you disliked his writing style from what little you read, and that what you'd heard about the book didn't make it sound like something you'd like. But in all honesty, that's about all you can say about it. "I don't like the writing style, and from what I've heard about the story, it doesn't appeal to me."

If you're gonna tell other people what it's about, or what message it sends, you really ought to read the whole thing.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
That is all I could say about it in a comment answer. If you want an essay ripping the whole bloody thing to pieces, you have only to ask. I am both willing and able to do it. My considered judgement as a person who has done his bit of reading and writing in his time is that the book is crap, and that it is crap precisely because the author is constantly shoving his great big fat ego in the reader's way all the time. At the end of the trilogy, I gather, it becomes so obtrusive that any semblance of plot flies out the window. John C. Wright, unlike me, has taken the trouble to read the bloody thing from cover to cover, and his essays were very instructive indeed.

Yes, I do claim the right to throw a bad book across the room without having to stick to the last page. I did the same with Dan Brown's messterpiece, and as a result I missed one important plot development (the revelation of Teabing's villainy); but people who read my review still seemed to agree that it had something to say on the book. Life is too short to read to the end a book you are going to obviously hate. Again, I stopped reading Edward Said's miserable Orientalism after twenty pages; it was by then clear to me that the man was both a fraud (he claimed to speak about Oriental studies, but all his talk was in fact about Islam alone, as though India, China, etc. did not exist) and a vicious ideologue with a very bloodthirsty axe to grind. Guess what? It turned out that I was right; at least, that many people who knew the subject better than me, and who had made the effort to read the stinking thing through, confirmed everything I had seen.

Of all the really bad and vicious books I have read, there are only two I have read to the end: Robert Graves' The White Goddess, and Michael Moorcock's Gloriana. But I was eighteen when I came across them, and in the case of Gloriana I was bewildered by the prestige of Moorcock's name, then at the apex of his critical successs. I was at the stage where a boy feels that if he cannot see the great merit that all the reviewing sages find in this or that writer, or even follow the connection and see the sense of his claims, it must be because of insufficient understanding - and not because they are really not there. And as a result of taking the views of others seriously, I wasted my time reading filth like Gloriana, and, in the case of The White Goddess, I was actually misled into a number of blind alleys of research.

Yes, I do claim the right to conclude that a book is bad after two chapters. To a man of the trade, they are quite enought. And I do claim the right to tell people that it stinks. Especially if the author has done something to make himself detestable to me on principle - and you know perfectly well that Pullman has.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should. As for JK Rowling, as I said to another college lady about Dickens - your loss.

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