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fpb ([personal profile] fpb) wrote2008-08-15 01:18 pm
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The loud American complaints about Chinese cheating in the Olympics would sound better if the US athletics establshment had not been a sink of doped iniquity for decades, leading to horrors such as the "flo-jo" so-called world record, which is still on the books, and finally to the disgrace and humiliation of Marion Jones and her contemporaries. This will leave on any other nation the usual impression that Americans really think that their cheating is nobler than other people's cheating. And what about the time it took to make steroids illegal in baseball?

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
In fact, let us simplify this. Do you think that fraud and the deliberate endangering of young people's health and future (a successful doping program must start when the athletes are fifteen or earlier) for the sake of money are part of a people's fundamental liberty, or do you think that such activities are criminal and must be suppressed by law? That is the only issue here. Anyone who dopes - Italian, American, Chinese - is a criminal. What is more, s/he is a suicide, date left unspecified. Read up on Marco Pantani.

[identity profile] bdunbar.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Clearly this is a hot-button issue for you.

We disagree on this.

I find your tone disagreeable and strident.

I decline to discuss this further.

Good day, Sir.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
How convenient. Yes, crime happens to be a hot button issue for me. You, on the other hand, do not wish to admit that certain American institutions have committed crimes, and committed them deliberately. Since the facts are undeniable, you fall into denying that the monstrous events symbolized by the corpse of Florence Joyner are criminal at all. That is a pretty hopeless case to try to make, and you do not help it by pretending that I am being weird in finding it important.

[identity profile] bdunbar.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You are demonstrating a reading disability.

I simply with to stop discussing this. I wish to stop discussing this because I find your tone disagreeable.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Which, as I said, is a most convenient discovery when you have no good arguments.

[identity profile] bdunbar.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You insist on being an ass and name calling. Please consider yourself de-friended.

[identity profile] bdunbar.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't write that to hurt you, but out of politeness that you seem unable to return.

You wrote a few weeks ago that people had defriended you without notification, and you were wondering why.

In this case, at least, you know why: You are being rude and provocative and life is too short to deal with fug-heads.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You just yatter on and on after saying that you did not want to go on. AND YOU DO SO IN MY OWN LJ. AFTER TRYING TO TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT DO IN MY OWN BLOG.

You have an LJ of your own. If you have something to say, USE IT.