To all the Catholics on my f-list - Non-Catholics, stay the Hell away or you WILL be offended

[fpb]

There is a priest in Boulder, Colorado, who is under vicious, systematic, directed attack because he is keeping the teachings of the Church and the orders of his Bishop. I have some experience of how it feels like to be at the wrong (or is it?) end of the kind of vile hatred that is being directed at this man. So I tell the Catholics and Christians on my f-list: follow this link and do what it says - http://wdtprs.com/blog/2010/03/to-arms-denver-priest-attacked-for-being-obedient-poll-alert/ - and then go to the priest's own blog and register a personal message of support. While a good man has enough in himself to stand up for the Church even to martyrdom - and to be fair, that does not yet seem to be the case here - anyone who is subjected to hundreds of direct sexually explicit threats can do with kind words from a distant country.

Comments

[expectare.livejournal.com]

I was asking a question. You gave me an assholish lecture. You know, you should REALLY just tone down the self-righteousness.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

You asked that I should answer for the Church. When I did so, you were not happy. I remind you that the Church is not a discussion society.

[expectare.livejournal.com]

Oh, for the love of God.

1. Do you think I'd really just waltz up and demand you to justify doctrine that I know better than you do?
2. Am I the type of person that "is unwilling to read"?
3. Do you think I am unfamiliar with the concept of the Church militant?
4. Do you think I need "reminding" of any part of my profession?

Part of you knows the answer to these questions. The dominant part just wants a flame war. You know where you can shove that.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

If you start asking "questions" about church doctrine and church discipline, I cannot assume that you intend to be faithful to them.

And I am not the one who is using vituperative language and threats of flamewars.

[expectare.livejournal.com]

Answer all my questions, yes or no.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

You are both aggressive and rude, and I cannot imagine why. And no, why should I? I have supplied you with plenty of links - to the original story, which in turn leads to the priest's own blog, to my own post on a similar situation five years ago, to a post on the same matter by a learned canonist who certainly knows more than both of us - if you want to argue, you have plenty to argue against. And this is not a suitable place for you to try and impose your authority.

[expectare.livejournal.com]

I am responding in kind.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Your very first question was in the exact tone and vocabulary I would have expected from either a Jack T.Chick or a Richard Dawkins fan; so I started nothing. And I was stunned to get the kind of reductio ad absurdum that could be argued against any act of discrimination whatever, from you of all people. Look at it. Read it again. It does not sound like the kind of question that expects a constructive answer.

"Answer all my questions, yes or no."

[fpb.livejournal.com]

1) You did, and I cannot imagine why.
2) You did not go and read the priest's own blog, or if you did, you acted exactly as if you did not.
3) Until now, I did not.
4) That is why I brought it up. Because it was something you would understand immediately and without discussion.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

About Church teaching on this matter:
http://www.canonlaw.info/a_samesex.htm

[expectare.livejournal.com]

See, THIS was all you had to say, and this was actually what I was looking for. Instead, you were a jerk and insulted me and my motivations repeatedly. Apparently the past two years of knowing me are irrelevant when you are on an ego trip.

[johncwright.livejournal.com]

Well, except he answered your question in clear prose, and his answer was no more assholish than your question, in my opinion. It is not as if you meant that question to be taken seriously.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Kate is actually a devout Catholic as well as an army cadet. I don't know what she was trying to do with this question, but I honestly don't think she intended to undermine the Church or me.