To all the Catholics on my f-list - Non-Catholics, stay the Hell away or you WILL be offended

[fpb]

There is a priest in Boulder, Colorado, who is under vicious, systematic, directed attack because he is keeping the teachings of the Church and the orders of his Bishop. I have some experience of how it feels like to be at the wrong (or is it?) end of the kind of vile hatred that is being directed at this man. So I tell the Catholics and Christians on my f-list: follow this link and do what it says - http://wdtprs.com/blog/2010/03/to-arms-denver-priest-attacked-for-being-obedient-poll-alert/ - and then go to the priest's own blog and register a personal message of support. While a good man has enough in himself to stand up for the Church even to martyrdom - and to be fair, that does not yet seem to be the case here - anyone who is subjected to hundreds of direct sexually explicit threats can do with kind words from a distant country.

Comments

[geeklady.livejournal.com]

You can't equate sin and "against the teaching of the Church". Sin is an action, Church teaching is an abstract truth. You can't just put one on each side of an equation. You can sin and still live in accordance with the teachings of the Church, this is what the Sacrament of Reconciliation is for, because we can't help sinning. But Reconciliation does require us to turn away from our sins.

Homosexuality is not the disqualifier here, but persistence in sin in defiance of the teachings of the Church.

And I believe the same metric can and should be applied to children whose parents are known to not married, or to have divorced and remarried after an otherwise sacramentally valid marriage, or who conceive their children through immoral fertility treatments, all of which disdain the teachings of the Church on the sacrament. However these things are not plainly observable in the fashion that a same sex couple parenting a child is. While they may violate the teachings of the Church, they may also be hidden from casual observation.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[geeklady.livejournal.com]

Any time.

[expectare.livejournal.com]

However these things are not plainly observable in the fashion that a same sex couple parenting a child is.

This makes sense. Although now that they've done this, they should also go and figure out whose parents are adamantly pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research, and who have sacramentally invalid marriages, and kick their kids out, too. You can't implement a policy like that and go by halves.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

The invention of "gay marriage" is not a sin in the same level as even the worst sins of lust. In a sense, it goes beyond them, by denying that our corporeal being, our being of flesh, has anything to do with our essential self. We can be "married" to anything that thinks, because only the non-corporeal mind is really married - anything else is mindless flesh, to be indulged or neglected as the case may be, but at any rate having nothing to do with our essential selves. This is a direct denial of the Catholic doctrine of mankind, of which the sacrament of marriage is only a part; it denies just as thoroughly, for instance, the sacrament of Anointing the Sick, since it denies the hope offered to the dying of being reborn in the flesh. Thus, while homosexual lust as such is a lust like any other (as I argued a few weeks ago), nonetheless the invention of "homosexual marriage" has made the matter of cohabitation and "gay couples" with their own adopted children something that goes well beyond even the promotion of lust for its own sake.

[geeklady.livejournal.com]

It's a parish school, not the inquisition. Their mission is to provide a Catholic education, and the diocesan policies exist to protect and promote their ability to do so. They are limited by what is publicly known. They have neither the resources nor the right to ferret out every iota of defiance of Church teaching.

Furthermore, it should also be noted that in every situation we've listed so far, the possibility exists for reconciliation - except for a same sex relationship. Marriages may be regularized, opinions may be changed, but nothing can bring a same sex relationship into line with the teachings of the Church. It is as diametrically opposed as it is possible to be.

Finally, you need to understand how thoroughly fatiguing and frustrating it is to constantly have members of your faith harassed in the name of tolerance. I know it makes me want to hit something, and while I cannot speak for others I suspect I am not alone. To drop a comment like your first onto a post where the author gives ample warning signs that he is not in the mood to cope with impertinent and incorrect comments about parish school attendance requirements is unwise.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

To be fair, Kate is actually a Catholic herself. That is what stunned me.

[geeklady.livejournal.com]

I apologies, I'm not good at picking up this type of contextual information.

[geeklady.livejournal.com]

also I cannot compose sentences coherently anymore. That should read "my apologies"

[fpb.livejournal.com]

I guess I've probably seen worse if I could only remember when....