[identity profile] panobjecticon.livejournal.com 2010-04-02 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
any idea where i might find the text of the then cardinal ratzinger's 2001 letter to the bishops please?

[identity profile] panobjecticon.livejournal.com 2010-04-03 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
couldn't find it, try reading this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection - all the guardian has to do is publish the letter...

this from archbishop nicholls - who referenced ratzinger's 2001 letter on the andrew marr show last sunday - which is reassuring: http://www.catholicchurch.org.uk/catholic_church/media_centre/press_releases/press_releases_2010/the_church_is_not_trying_to_cover_anything_up

ok but it doesn't quite seem to fit neatly with the relevant sections of this: http://www.catholicchurch.org.uk/content/download/5473/37714/file/Directory_of_Clergy.pdf

and this which doesn't clearly state the case for involvement of the state: http://www.catholicchurch.org.uk/catholic_church/media_centre/press_releases/press_releases_2010/pope_benedict_xvi_s_pastoral_letter_to_the_catholics_of_ireland

it's very easy to see why the catholic church could be argued to be attempting to remove its staff from local criminal proceedings in some cases.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2010-04-03 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
Considering that in the case raised and mangled by the NYT, the Church court had taken up the case long after the state authorities had refused to do anything with it, no, it is not so easy.

[identity profile] panobjecticon.livejournal.com 2010-04-06 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
are there not other us cases? german, swiss, italian, irish and presumably others bubbling under? it appears to me that the pope has had a couple of bites of the cherry on this (with his letter to the catholics and his speech to the bishops) and rather than killing the issue as could relatively easily have been done, he's allowed enough scope for misunderstanding. i'm not vatican or pope bashing btw, just curious about the issue. i'm also curious about the medical treatments administered in the cases of conviction: does this included chemical castration for instance? and confession for the ordinary catholic, i think i'm aware of the process, but not what it means to someone as such - i'd be grateful if you'd explain from your point of view.

[identity profile] panobjecticon.livejournal.com 2010-04-10 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
more persecution here, the text of the letter is linked down the page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8612787.stm

[identity profile] panobjecticon.livejournal.com 2010-04-21 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8635211.stm

'Last week the Vatican made it clear that the policy of zero tolerance of sexual abuse of minors by clergy, adopted by Catholic bishops conferences in the US and in England and Wales, is now applicable worldwide.'