This discussion is going nowhere. There were no pagans in 16th-century Europe, apart from a few aristocratic faddists in Florence, and if you think otherwise, that means that you are fed on pseudo-history that no self-respecting historian - and I don't mean Christians, I mean Marxists like Christopher Hill or agnostics like GR Elton or Keith Thomas - would touch with a barge-pole. Nothing makes sense in European history from the tenth to the seventeenth century until you understand that all popular movements, however subversive, HAD to be Christian, because the people simply did not understand any other way of thinking. They had none. So even visitations as brutal and destructive as Hussitism and Muenster Anabaptism made their claims in Christian terms. From the First Crusade - which was the first great popular movement in the modern Western mode - to the American Revolution, preached from the same pulpits that had heard the thunder of Whitfield thirty years earlier, seven centuries of popular movements kept calling on the same God and the same Christ. There was no popular movement until the French Revolution that made any claim that did not depend on the books of Christianity for its validation, however fraudulent. You have been reading trash and your understanding - so to call it - of European history is pickled in trash. And that being the case, I have nothing to say to you, except to try and realize that you know nothing that has any claim to be true.