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This is the worst few days the Republicans have had in years. First, Obama sinks the Trump candidacy with all hands after he had imprudently been allowed to become a serious candidate. Second, he delivers the body of Public Enemy No.1, signed, sealed and delivered - a wholly different moment from the sense of slog and useless effort that was so far associated with Afghanistan; and it turns out that this success was the result of a patient investigative operation that had been going on for two years, and of which the President himself had been informed months ago. There is no way that this is anything but his success.

I oppose the President on the fundamental issue of abortion and will continue to do so. But this really does sound like his version of Sherman taking Atlanta.

Date: 2011-05-02 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] super-pan.livejournal.com
I have all ready heard one person claim this as a result of the Bush Administration's intel gathering.

Date: 2011-05-02 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliskimo.livejournal.com
As if often the case, I appreciate you saying succinctly much of what I'm thinking. I believe that great number of conservative Americans at their heart mostly oppose Obama and the DNC on abortion, but lack the true conviction to say so openly and instead throw themselves into the malicious party politics and name calling as an out for that frustration.

Date: 2011-05-02 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Wise men treat their opponents objectively and with respect, recognize their strengths, acknowledge their successes, and even underline the occasional agreement. This makes defeats more understandable and successes more admirable. Alas, party politics is the enemy of wisdom.

Date: 2011-05-02 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
The Trump candidacy would have been a complete disaster for the Republicans. Sinking it one year before the campaign is a good thing for them.

Date: 2011-05-02 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
In the long run, perhaps, if they can show a good roster of candidates. At present, it's just one of a number of successes for the President.

Date: 2011-05-02 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Speaking as a Republican, I'd say this has been a GREAT few days for Republicans. Obama is only a political enemy, but Osama is an enemy, period.

Date: 2011-05-03 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliskimo.livejournal.com
This post was originally about American politics, but that statement is so applicable to the fallout I'm seeing on my FB today regarding yesterday's Canadian election.

Date: 2011-05-03 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Quite. Of course, Mr.Harper being as much an abortion-and-all-the-trimmings supporter as every one of his opponents, I have no dog in that particular fight.

Date: 2011-05-04 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lectorpoemarum.livejournal.com
How true. Party politics really does spoil everything.

I get the feeling that it is worsening. I suppose the divisions before the Civil War were deeper; but the ideological divides 'within the mainstream' (there've always been extremists) seem deeper now than over most of US history, even as the actual differences -in practice- between what the two parties *do* are, if anything, narrowing.

And often half a good idea is caught on each side, but unable to combine. On a lot of environmental issues, the "right" tends to deny the problem, and the "left" tends to come up with the wrong solution. (For some very strange reason, 'left'-leaning environmentalists tend not to see technological solutions to environmental problems... I think because too many are stuck in a neo-Malthusian view and thus a misconception of resources.)

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