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fpb ([personal profile] fpb) wrote2012-09-21 06:42 am

So my friend John C.Wright does not understand why "the video" created so much scandal

Let's see if we can help him a bit. We have a very rich man (although Romney's wealth can be exaggerated; he is not as rich, for instance, as Berlusconi, or as the average Russian or Arab crook, or indeed as his host during the fund-raiser where "the video" was shot). We have him sitting along with very many other very rich men, who have paid a small fortune to be there - none of us plebs welcome. We have him telling these people that he "does not care" - his words - for anyone who, for whatever reason, cannot afford to pay Federal income tax - such people are all spongers (all, the sick, the underpaid, the disabled, the old, the members of the military... all spongers) who depend on the State and therefore will vote with their wallet. Such people, of course, have no values to appeal to, no ambition, and no life except for the money (such enormous amounts, to be sure!) they get from the State; they make no contribution, pay no other tax, do no service - they are, one and all, thieves and scroungers. But still, even though he does not care for them, he wants to be President over them, and for this purpose he wants his fellow very rich people to give him lots of lovely lovely lolly to spend on purchasing the presidency. (His, evidently, was enough to purchase the Republican nomination against better men, but he still needs more.)

At which point I, as a person who would not be paying Federal income tax in the United States of America, beg to inform Mr.Romney that he has blown every last chance not only of my ever voting for him for so much as dog catcher, but even of not crossing the street if I see the bastard coming.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
There are other reasons for me to detest Mitt Happens, of course; first and foremost that, thanks to a monstrous campaign of personal destruction and to the lies of party trash such as Ann Coulter, he has got by deception the votes of many opponents of abortion even though he is an abortion supporter. He is ambitious, dishonest and shallow, with no visible idea or value to follow. But "the video" was degradation. If you think there is any great ethical difference between this man and Obama, you are fooling yourselves.

[identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
one of the best responses I've seen as to why his statements were so odious.
This election for me is just depressing. I've got a friend who has pretty much given up and won't vote. She explained it to me by saying "It's like being starving and going to the fridge and finding I have spoiled chicken and spoiled pork. Either one I choose is going to make me sick."

Me I'm just gonna vote third party in the hopes of keeping our struggling third parties on the table -_-

[identity profile] affablestranger.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The Mitt Romney, well, everything and the current crop of things calling themselves 'conservatives' these days really turn my stomach. I consider myself a conservative, especially when I compare my views to the views of so many others I know and many others I read/listen to, and the utter lack of compassion, understanding, and even humanity of so many these days often does floor me. Fear does such things to people, to otherwise decent people, and fear is what I believe has been generally driving things for some years now. And I don't quite understand why beyond thinking it's being peddled in vast quantities by people who desire the power it brings them, which is itself the most nauseating and angering of all.

[identity profile] deiseach.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I am astounded that any political candidate should make such a statement, if he did indeed say what he is supposed to have said in the manner he is supposed to have said it (I haven't watched the video).

Even if 47% of the American populace are on some form of government dole or payment (and where does that figure come from?), it surely must include: pensioners, who have paid in during their working lives contributions from social security and taxes, and people now unemployed due to no fault of their own but the rotten state of the global economy.

If Mr. Romney had used this as a springboard to attack President Obama's economic policies or handling of the current crisis, then it would have worked: you could make a very stirring speech about the hard-working citizens who now find themselves jobless, with no opportunity to find work despite their best efforts because companies are not hiring because they have no confidence in the market as it stands, and how this administration has made a hash of things.

But saying that under half the population (your potential voters, remember!) are leeches and parasites - do you want to lose by a landslide?

[identity profile] sabethea.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's interesting that Mitt's father was once on benefits.

Also, I've seen a cartoon doing the rounds where God gets the presidency and then insists on things like "feed the hungry" and "heal the sick"... Such ridiculous notions.

[identity profile] rfachir.livejournal.com 2012-09-24 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
(Full Disclosure - I'm voting Jill Stein this year, and I gave her campaign money in the past.)
One good thing from this tape - vote buyers and sellers were getting sloppy. At least now they'll pretend to be embarrased about it (for a while) and "phrase things more elegantly" - maybe with a British accent?