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Pat Buchanan on May 25, 2003:

"Leave it to The New York Times. On the eve of Pentecost, the birthday of the church, this Catholic-baiting newspaper opened its op-ed page to a venomous anti-Catholic rant by Arthur Hertzberg, "a visiting professor of the humanities" at New York University.

Hertzberg slandered no fewer than three popes. Not only did the church of Pius XII remain "silent while Europe's Jews were murdered," he alleges, the church of John Paul II taught Catholics that the "sin of letting the Holocaust happen at its doorstep need not haunt the church ..."

As for Benedict XVI, formerly Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, he is guilty of a mortal sin of omission.

"What Cardinal Ratzinger did not do ... was to question the orthodox Catholic position that though individual Catholics can err morally, the church and pope cannot. Until the Vatican reconsiders that outlook, one of the Holocaust's greatest wounds will continue to fester -- namely, that the major European institution that stood for morality looked away from genocide."

Reading this, I exploded -- in laughter, trying to imagine Professor Hertzberg instructing Cardinal Ratzinger that he must renounce the dogma of papal infallibility. Yet, this is no jesting matter.

For Hertzberg and the Times are perpetuating a blood libel that is Hitlerite in dimension. Just as Hitler blamed Bolshevism on the Jewish people by constantly denouncing "Judeo-Bolshevism," because some Jews had collaborated in the monstrous crimes of Lenin and Stalin, so Hertzberg damns the church because some Catholics participated in the crimes of Hitler.

Beyond a vile slander, this is a moral outrage. For Hertzberg seeks to lay the crimes of a Nazi regime at the door of a church and pope who spoke out with greater moral clarity and did more to save the Jews of Europe than any other institution.

In a brilliant new anthology, "The Pius War," every lie about the church and libel against Pius XII is addressed. Ronald J. Rychlak, Rabbi David Dallin and others scatter the jackal pack with the sword of truth. Here is but a fraction of what they discovered:

-- Of the 44 speeches Cardinal Pacelli, the future Pius XII, gave as papal nuncio in Germany from 1917 to 1929, 40 condemned some aspect of Nazi ideology.

-- In March 1935, as Vatican secretary of state, Pacelli wrote an open letter to the bishop of Cologne calling the Nazis "false prophets with the pride of Lucifer."

-- Though slandered as "Hitler's Pope" today, in the German press of the 1930s, Pacelli was called the "Jew-loving" cardinal because of 55 protests he sent to Germany as Vatican secretary of state.

-- In 1939 and 1940, Pius XII acted as the secret intermediary between the German plotters against Hitler and the British.

-- In 1940, the Pope granted an audience to Joachim von Ribbentrop, who chastised him for siding with the Allies -- at which Pius XII began to read to Hitler's foreign minister a list of Nazi atrocities. Wrote a newspaper of record: "In the burning words he spoke to Herr Ribbentrop, (Pius) came to the defense of Jews in Germany and Poland." That newspaper was The New York Times.

-- After hearing the Pope's Christmas address of 1941, the Times wrote: "The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas. ... In calling for a 'real new order' based on 'liberty, justice and love' ... the pope put himself squarely against Hitlerism."

-- In October 1944, after the liberation of Rome, The New York Times wrote, "Under the Pope's direction, the Holy See did an exemplary job of sheltering and championing the victims of the Nazi-Fascist regime."

Pius XII's sterling record stands for all time. All that has changed is the moral character and commitment to truth of The New York Times. Consider:

-- In 1943, Chaim Weizmann, later the first president of Israel, wrote, "The Holy See is lending its powerful help wherever it can, to mitigate the fate of my persecuted co-religionists."

-- In 1944, Rabbi Isaac Herzog, chief rabbi of Israel, declared, "The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness ... (is) doing for our unfortunate brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history, which is living proof of Divine Providence in this world."

At war's end, Moshe Sharett, who would become the second prime minister of Israel, met with Pius XII and "told him that my first duty was to thank him and through him the Catholic Church on behalf of the Jewish public for all they have done in the various countries to rescue the Jews."

On Pius' death in 1958, he was eulogized by Golda Meir.

Is it likely Jewish leaders of the war generation would dissemble about a matter like Hitler's pogrom? No. They spoke the truth -- and Hertzberg's falsehoods are exceeded in baseness only by his ingratitude.

Pope Benedict XVI should proceed with the canonization of Pius XII, and terminate "dialogues" with men who look on dialogue only as a methodology of moral shakedown."

Date: 2005-06-02 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justjanuary.livejournal.com
Just thought I'd tell you you have been niffled.

http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88597

Date: 2005-06-02 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
Bollocks. Thought I should've broken the news. Well, there you go, you crotchety old bugger: I think highly of your work.

Date: 2005-06-02 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justjanuary.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm sorry!

Date: 2005-06-02 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
That's OK, Bufo Viridis was here ahead of Theregoes anyway. And thanxx.

Date: 2005-06-02 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justjanuary.livejournal.com
What? I'm pretty sure Bufo Viridis is the scientific name for a frog, but I'm lost on Theregoes... And, no problem. :)

Date: 2005-06-02 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Many thanks. This is the first good news (aside from the occasional review) I've had from FA in months, and comes the sweeter as I have been suspended. And "crotchety old bugger..." - I kinda like that.

Date: 2005-06-02 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
At least it's accurate. I was going to add a postscript at the bottom of my niffle and say 'ps: He kicks puppies', as per your challenge a while back, but I didn't think I'd be allowed to do it.

Date: 2005-06-03 12:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
Congrats! Of course I'm still partial to Ice Princess/Water, but thank Gods tastes differ. And there's far too little femmeslash recced out there as it is.

Date: 2005-06-03 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Thankxx. Next time you're a Niffler, you can pick those.

Date: 2005-06-03 06:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
Couldn't :). Betas/betaees are off-limits (nepotism/conflict of interest...). Not that I want to do that amount of work again any time soon...

Date: 2005-06-03 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Basta che gli dici lo stato attuale del nostro rapporto. Non avranno nessun problema a credere che qualcuno mi possa detestare. Nepotismo? Conflitto d'interessi? Huh!

Date: 2005-06-04 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] becomethesea.livejournal.com
Nahhh..."PS: He eats babies and killed Harry's parents" would be better ;)

Date: 2005-06-05 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-mirie.livejournal.com
I just saw your Niffle. Congratulations! You certainly deserve it. May more Niffles come your way.:)

Date: 2005-06-05 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Many thanks. And the same to you too.

Of a toad!

Date: 2005-06-05 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
Bufo Viridis is Green Toad, whose lovely face can be seen in my avatar.
Fabio meant me, actually :)
I add my congratulations here.

Date: 2005-06-05 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
Interesting info about Pius XII - must say I was not aware of his earlier protests (I knew about the 1941 speech).

I never did any studies on a subject, but the ssue of Catholic Church - Nzi relations is an interesting one. The Church is often accused of passivity in the face of Nazism - and to the extent such claims are true, as it always could do more. Of course it's a question of pure speculation, because we can't say "how much more" there could be done. Comparisons with different other institutions can be done only with extreme caution.

I do suppose that the rather cordial relations between the Church and other regimes, which were friendly with Nazi Germany, namely Frankists and Italian Fascists are to be blamed. The simplistic assumptions that "firend of my friend is my friend" does not necessarily hold true - especially in the realm of WW II. And it must be noted that e.g. in Italy Jews suffered relatively little.

Another factor is that the Church, "forced" in a way to "chose" between two ugly monsters of Nazism and Communism, voiced louder against communists. So for commie-sumpathizers from the West it was a proof it was "pro-Nazi". And so is the fact that it maintained dyplomatic relations with Nazis - well, so did the resto fo the world and nobody is blaming British, huh?

From the things I know more about, in Poland there were many Jews saved by the people of the Church (I mean priests and nuns), e.g. children hidden in monasteries in our place. However I'm not aware of an organized movement led by the hierarchy to use the potential of the Church organization for such goal. Which is sad, but not surprising as the Church was struggling for its own and its people biological survival (I stress the word biological). And yes, of course, there were anti-semits within the Church as well. Ironically, one Polish Catholic writer (a layman), Zofia Kossak, widely known for her heated disputes with Jews and generally considered anti-semite, was one of two creators of special underground organization for saving the Jews ("Zegota"). She said Poles and Jews can re-start their squabbles after the war, if they so please. Now it's all unimportant - the help must be given in the name of humanity.

Well, on the other hand "everybody knows" Poles are "traditional anti-semites" so maybe I shouldn't talk about it. I guess it's one of those "truths" which are "simply undisputable".

Date: 2005-06-05 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
ST.Maximilian Kolbe, I am told, had done some kind of anti-Semitic writing before the war. He offered his life to save that of Jews.

There was organized Catholic resistance against the extermination of Jews in Italy and in Slovakia, so far as I know. In Slovakia, the fact that the head of the puppet government was a priest - Monsignor Tiso - may have made things easier for the Church; in Poland, the Church itself was targeted for extermination, and many priests and nuns and even Bishops were murdered.

Your considerations are all correct, but there is a simpler answer to all those who say that "the Church could have done more". The Church could have got even more Catholics murdered than effectively were murdered. Nazism already wanted the Church destroyed, and made no secret of the fact. Those who, long after the fact, make this sort of demand, are demanding heroism from others which they themselves never will run the risk of. There is a nice, sarcastic expression in Italian for these heroes on others' behalf: "armiamoci e partite" - let's all get ready to fight, then you can go to the Front.

Re: Of a toad!

Date: 2005-06-05 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justjanuary.livejournal.com
Ooh, okay.

Date: 2005-06-06 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
Actually the person for whom St. Macimilian offered his life was a Pole; he died recently, living to ripe old age.

Yes, what you said was a conclusion of an artilcle I read recently. It's true that the world lackeg something like a "call to arms" - like papal letter stating that e.g. all Catholics should refuse serving Nazis, if not actively oppose them.

On the strictly moral grounds, such a advice should be given and such letter issued.

Unfortunately, there's no hope that al Catholics would really follow the advice. Yes, of course, if they did than the Reich would collapse. If all the Russians simultanously opposed Communists, Soviet nion would cease to exist. If all French were willing to fight, France would not sign an armistice. If...

Such a call, even if met with enthusiastic appeal would be rather inefficient, because the "opponents" would lack coordination, organization etc. The likely effect would be a "moral victory" - namely a massive slaughter and destruction of cultural treasures. And the end of Reich would be brought about by the same armies which did it anyway.
In our history we had a tendency for such "moral victories", so I remain very cautious about them.

Such accusations of "silence" raise valid problems of moral integrity of the people involved. At the same time they show the problems of such ideas like anti-semitism.

I'm not saying that such thing doesn't exist - unfortunetely it does - but that it is quite bad analitic tool. Because it splits the people into black and white categories of pro- and anti-semites (the same problem remains, if any other nationality is substituted).

If one didn't actively help Jews during the war or didn't collaborate with Germans, fall into a "silent mmajority" category. Now, in strictly moral terms, if one didn't protest than agreed. One can't simply say "it's not my thing" - not mentioning, not protesting against other people's sins is a sin, too. So everybody who was just around, but didn't come to help, became a passive collaborator. Now it's only enough to drop the "passive" bit and voila! we're lined together with Nazi.

The world was a bit more complicated, as the world usually is. There were other people to help and protect (after all not only Jews were killed in this war, though hardly any other with such single-mindednss). People were afraid, people were protecting their loved ones (should one sacrifice his own child for the sake of an alien one? Is not maternal love worth praise?), people just lived...

On the whole I'm happy I do not live in times which make me do such extreme moral choices. I'm very unsure I'd made the right one.

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