I was directed to your post by one of the current Nifflers as an FYI; I hope I can provide some clarity. First, let me state for the record that none of the current Nifflers had any complaints about your fic being Niffled, nor was your fic being Niffled discussed on the Niffler mailing list by any of the current Nifflers. Secondly, when Gun brought up on the Niffler list that your Niffle was being questioned on LJ (she did not say by who) I, as the Niffler mod at FAP, posted the following (excerpted for relevancy) to the Niffler mailing list for all Nifflers and former Nifflers who remain on the list to consider:
Fic is subjective. If a fic speaks to you as a Niffler, Niffle it. I do not feel like all the Nifflers have to agree on a fic, or that a fic is Niffle-worthy. Nifflers have the right to like and dislike any fic they choose to -- Niffling is *not* what I consider a group effort. We are a group, but we are not required to all agree.
There are many stories that I have reviewed as the Niffler mod that I found mediocre at best. Likely there are tons of people out there who have read my own fics (two of which have been Niffled) and find them mediocre at best. There are some premises that, no matter how well-written, don't appeal to certain readers, and nothing will change that. Whether or not a given *author* is Niffled should be based solely upon that author's writing. If a given Niffler likes a given story . . . Niffle it.
The Niffler mods do not pull Niffles very often; in this round of Niffling, I have rejected only one story, and I got nine second opinions from nine separate people before making that decision. I do not reject stories for Niffling because of the author. Because FPB in particular is on a ban from FAP at present, I did check with Heidi about allowing him to be Niffled because of that; both of us agreed that he is eligible.
I do not feel that the group needs to automatically support each and every Niffle -- that quickly morphs into a Unimind dynamic, and it stifles honest dialogue about what we as individuals care about in fic. Anyone is free to express their opinions about any fic Niffled on FAP, and that includes giving honest feedback on the Niffler forum threads themselves, as well as posting to LJ. Flames and author bashing will not be tolerated on the Niffler threads themselves; however, dissention and con-crit is not banned or discouraged.
My motto? Ain't no one above con-crit. But also? Different strokes for different folks.
You all were picked in the spirit of diversity in fic reading and recs -- I strongly feel that you all have the right to like what you like, and Niffle what you want (within reason; if it's a sucky fic, and it's obviously a sucky fic, I'm gonna call you out on that -- privately, of course -- especially if I think/find it is a nepotism Niffle. I am so NOT down with that). I myself am not comfortable with the idea we all have to think the same way about fic, and I'm not going to censor Niffles based on that premise alone.
Hope this helps. Gun, anyone has the right to hate a fic that you Niffle, but you are certainly not obligated to get the group's approval for a Niffle. It's your call -- if you want feedback, ask. If not, that's okay too. But you don't need to clarify or justify your choices, within reason.
Lastly, again to reiterate, when I saw your fic was slated to be Niffled, I did check with Heidi just to ensure Niffling a currently-banned author/FAP member wasn't against the *general* rules of FAP or the ToU; it is not against the rules to Niffle a banned author.
Congratulations on your Niffle -- most authors never get this kind of public nod, so it's always neat to be Niffled. Enjoy your Niffle, and know that none of the current Nifflers or Niffler mods attempted to stifle your Niffle. Theregoesmygun has proven herself to be a careful and thoughtful Niffler, and she felt your fic was deserving of the spotlight. If you have any further questions or wish to discuss this with me, please don't hesitate to e-mail me at slytherincess@gmail.com.
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I was directed to your post by one of the current Nifflers as an FYI; I hope I can provide some clarity. First, let me state for the record that none of the current Nifflers had any complaints about your fic being Niffled, nor was your fic being Niffled discussed on the Niffler mailing list by any of the current Nifflers. Secondly, when Gun brought up on the Niffler list that your Niffle was being questioned on LJ (she did not say by who) I, as the Niffler mod at FAP, posted the following (excerpted for relevancy) to the Niffler mailing list for all Nifflers and former Nifflers who remain on the list to consider:
Fic is subjective. If a fic speaks to you as a Niffler, Niffle it. I do not feel like all the Nifflers have to agree on a fic, or that a fic is Niffle-worthy. Nifflers have the right to like and dislike any fic they choose to -- Niffling is *not* what I consider a group effort. We are a group, but we are not required to all agree.
There are many stories that I have reviewed as the Niffler mod that I found mediocre at best. Likely there are tons of people out there who have read my own fics (two of which have been Niffled) and find them mediocre at best. There are some premises that, no matter how well-written, don't appeal to certain readers, and nothing will change that. Whether or not a given *author* is Niffled should be based solely upon that author's writing. If a given Niffler likes a given story . . . Niffle it.
The Niffler mods do not pull Niffles very often; in this round of Niffling, I have rejected only one story, and I got nine second opinions from nine separate people before making that decision. I do not reject stories for Niffling because of the author. Because FPB in particular is on a ban from FAP at present, I did check with Heidi about allowing him to be Niffled because of that; both of us agreed that he is eligible.
I do not feel that the group needs to automatically support each and every Niffle -- that quickly morphs into a Unimind dynamic, and it stifles honest dialogue about what we as individuals care about in fic. Anyone is free to express their opinions about any fic Niffled on FAP, and that includes giving honest feedback on the Niffler forum threads themselves, as well as posting to LJ. Flames and author bashing will not be tolerated on the Niffler threads themselves; however, dissention and con-crit is not banned or discouraged.
My motto? Ain't no one above con-crit. But also? Different strokes for
different folks.
You all were picked in the spirit of diversity in fic reading and recs -- I strongly feel that you all have the right to like what you like, and Niffle what you want (within reason; if it's a sucky fic, and it's obviously a sucky fic, I'm gonna call you out on that -- privately, of course -- especially if I think/find it is a nepotism Niffle. I am so NOT down with that). I myself am not comfortable with the idea we all have to think the same way about fic, and I'm not going to censor Niffles based on that premise alone.
Hope this helps. Gun, anyone has the right to hate a fic that you Niffle, but you are certainly not obligated to get the group's approval for a Niffle. It's your call -- if you want feedback, ask. If not, that's okay too. But you don't need to clarify or justify your choices, within reason.
Lastly, again to reiterate, when I saw your fic was slated to be Niffled, I did check with Heidi just to ensure Niffling a currently-banned author/FAP member wasn't against the *general* rules of FAP or the ToU; it is not against the rules to Niffle a banned author.
Congratulations on your Niffle -- most authors never get this kind of public nod, so it's always neat to be Niffled. Enjoy your Niffle, and know that none of the current Nifflers or Niffler mods attempted to stifle your Niffle. Theregoesmygun has proven herself to be a careful and thoughtful Niffler, and she felt your fic was deserving of the spotlight. If you have any further questions or wish to discuss this with me, please don't hesitate to e-mail me at slytherincess@gmail.com.