I'm a little amused by the fact that your list of false assumptions in my comment is longer than the comment itself, and you say that there is more! But I do not assume some of these things, and I'm pretty sure that my words shouldn't have led you to believe that I do.
- That there is some kind of universal validity to so-called gay marriage; I'll pass on this one, because I'm not sure what you mean by universal validity.
- That the Catholic view of the sexes is singular to the Catholic Church and irrelevant to anyone else; - that the Catholic view of the sexes has nothing to say (e.g. in its assumption of the complementarity of the sexes and of the need of both to total humanity) to anyone who is not Catholic; I do not assume this. It might be in the interest of other people to learn about this view and to accept it. But I do believe, very strongly, that they shouldn't be obligated to do so.
- and that therefore you can refuse to listen to any challenge from us or find an answer; you just have to say that that is the Catholic viewpoint and you have immediately invalided it; No. Not invalidated it, just pointed out that non-Catholics are free to think otherwise. If I really had this kind of contempt for the Catholic viewpoint I wouldn't have started this conversation with you. I really am interested in what you have to say.
- that such an attitude does not deprive Catholics of any right to be heard by anyone who is not a Catholic; What is the "right to be heard"? If it's the same thing as freedom of speech, I don't think Catholics are deprived of it by an attitude such as mine.
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Date: 2005-07-01 06:20 pm (UTC)- That there is some kind of universal validity to so-called gay marriage;
I'll pass on this one, because I'm not sure what you mean by universal validity.
- That the Catholic view of the sexes is singular to the Catholic Church and irrelevant to anyone else;
- that the Catholic view of the sexes has nothing to say (e.g. in its assumption of the complementarity of the sexes and of the need of both to total humanity) to anyone who is not Catholic;
I do not assume this. It might be in the interest of other people to learn about this view and to accept it. But I do believe, very strongly, that they shouldn't be obligated to do so.
- and that therefore you can refuse to listen to any challenge from us or find an answer; you just have to say that that is the Catholic viewpoint and you have immediately invalided it;
No. Not invalidated it, just pointed out that non-Catholics are free to think otherwise.
If I really had this kind of contempt for the Catholic viewpoint I wouldn't have started this conversation with you. I really am interested in what you have to say.
- that such an attitude does not deprive Catholics of any right to be heard by anyone who is not a Catholic;
What is the "right to be heard"? If it's the same thing as freedom of speech, I don't think Catholics are deprived of it by an attitude such as mine.