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fpb ([personal profile] fpb) wrote2005-06-30 06:56 am

About "gay marriage"

The Canadian government is, without a doubt, the most corrupt and dishonest of all current governments in major industrial countries: and bear in mind that when you are competing against Bush, Berlusconi, Chirac, and Blair, that is one Hell of a title to have. But as an Italian citizen in my forties, I thought I had seen the height of corruption and dishonesty in the Craxi age - and Paul Martin's bunch of bandits have the late Mr.Craxi totally whomped. For one thing, there is the purchase of representatives. I had heard of such things going on in the Pakistani Parliament - till they passed a law forbidding members of Parliament from changing parties - but it had never even occurred to me that it might happen in a non-banana-republic state, and certainly no Italian politician had ever offered another money or inducements to switch parties. But Paul Martin's bandits have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar, doing precisely that, at least once, and the evidence is overwhelming that they did it at least another time. Compared to this, which makes a mockery of elected government, even their notorious financial scandals become a comparatively minor matter.

Paul Martin and his party of gangsters should have been in jail long ago. Instead, they govern a major Western country - something they have in common with Chirac and Berlusconi, who both rose to the highest office of State as an alternative to going to jail. They are supported by a corrupt Press and by an utterly degraded CBC - a corporation that makes the BBC look like a model of objectivity and openness. And it is from this lofty moral perch that they have imposed "gay marriage" upon the country.

Insightful as always.

[identity profile] patchworkmind.livejournal.com 2005-06-30 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
While I believe your post ought've been titled "About Canada", I can't help but agree with you wholeheartedly. The Canadians have about as legitimate and open government as New Orleans, Atlanta, Chicago, New York City or Raleigh -- cities in the United States noted for their "alternative styles of governance and administration". I can't really compare the Canadians against other national governments, except as you said certain banana republics and some hard-line ideological Middle Eastern states. They are, however, only taking cue and leading the way in the style of power-grabbing which seems to have taken Western countries by storm.

The age-old struggle reveals itself, as bits and pieces of the facade of democracy, republicanism and freedom-nurturing fall away over recent time -- and will continue foresseably. It's a game, and it's called "Who Gets The Power, Whatever The Cost?"

Nice post.

[identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com 2005-06-30 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think that they're not forcing religious bodies to perform the marriages is a fair enough cop, and is fair enough, but I've long been pretty sus about the Canadian government and their policies which are kinda wack. Like not allowing any private medical practitioners (which doesn't make sense at all, especially from my perspective with a long, arduous family history in the public medical centre - if my state's medical system isn't the most frightening in the world, I don't know what is). But yeah, I agree: I think that they've pretty much used the issue of gay marriage to distract people from other more pressing matters (like said corruption within the political parties) in the same way that the US did at the last election, only to different ends.

[identity profile] agatha-s.livejournal.com 2005-06-30 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
I completely agree with your opinion about buying politicians to make them switch parties after elections. It makes democracy a charade, because people's votes don't really count for anything. It happened a lot in my country during the nineties, and it contributed a lot to the disillusionment with politics people are feeling now.

However, I don't think that the fact that this has happened in the Canadian government proves in any way that the law about gay marriage is a bad one. A corrupt government can still pass a good law.

Why did you use the words imposed "gay marriage" upon the country? The word "imposed" would suggest to me that someone's freedom is in danger, and it isn't -- the law won't affect the lives of those who don't want to marry a person of the same sex in any way.
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[identity profile] jennilee.livejournal.com 2005-06-30 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
The Canadian government is, without a doubt, the most corrupt and dishonest of all current governments in major industrial countries:

I wouldn't say the most. Because I don't know how the current governments are.

But yes, it is pretty bad.

But that is what happens when you have a split Canada, but the people in the West (read: Alberta... yeah, that's it, basically, what, 2 million out of 30?) are no match for the population numbers in the East.

Yes, if we had an election, the Liberals would certainly form at least another minority government, despite all they have done (and not done). That is because Stephen Harper is proving himself to be an idiot (although promising at first, especially after Stockwell Day) and the East will never accept him as a viable leader. They like to stick with what they know. And they know the devil. And they (grudgingly or not) accept it.

The Liberals have moved to the center, it's true. And that has made the remaining parties have to move far left, or far right, to show that they are different in their thinking. But then they try to make their platform (and, at times, what platform?) appealing and it collapses under them.

I will be glad when this chapter of our nation's government is closed. It's embarrassing.