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To those of us who realize to what extent "human rights" have been used in Canada to bash freedom of thought and of religion and force the country on a rigid PC posture, the allusion to female ordination as "a human rights issue" will sound particularly sinister. Now it so happens that I am in favour of female ordination and have said so in public. But rather another 2000 years of unmarried male priests than one goddamn night of Paul Martin and his crooks telling the Church what to do!

Thursday » July 21 » 2005

Ottawa to host conference on ordaining female priests


Broadcast News


Wednesday, July 20, 2005


TORONTO - About 400 people will be in Ottawa this weekend for an international conference on getting women ordained as Catholic priests.

The second Women Ordination Worldwide conference involves members of several Christian denominations who support the idea.

However, it may be an uphill battle as the Catholic Church is steadfast in its belief only men can be priests.

Thomas Reilly of the Ontario Conference of Catholic Bishops says that's because the first apostles were men.

And it's no secret Pope Benedict demands strict adherence to traditional Church doctrine.

But co-organizer Marie Bouclin, a former nun, says female ordination is a human rights issue.

Michele Birch-Conery, a teacher feminist literary analysis in B-C, will be the only Canadian among nine women, to be "ordained" this month in Ontario.

However, Archbishop Anthony Meagher of the Kingston diocese says the Vatican does not recognize the ordinations, and excommunication is automatic.

© Broadcast News 2005

Date: 2005-07-21 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepreciouss.livejournal.com
Oh man. They've got to be kidding themselves...
If you are a female and wish to be a priest, join the Episcopalian church! Stop messing with the Catholic Church. The debate over female priesthood should NOT be a political issue. It is a doctrinal, religious issue.

Date: 2005-07-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyssiae.livejournal.com
Hurray for latae sententiae excommunications! :P

Folly and Ego

Date: 2005-07-21 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patchworkmind.livejournal.com
The whole thing is mad, I tell you. Mad!

(Of course you already know that, but I don't often get the ocassion to say or write that.)

The notion that people have to force a religion to alter its tenets is, well, blasphemy. It's a blasphemy to the religion and a blasphemy of intellect, of reasoned thinking. I always hear from 'progressives' that "reasonable people can respectfully disagree", but when pushing comes to shoving and there's someone's feelings or othersuch bull on the line, reason and respectful disagreement go out the window.

The Catholic Church doesn't condone women priests. Period. Okay. I don't see how a whole lot of Episcopals, Methodists, Baptists and other whatnot making a caravan to Ottawa is going to accomplish -- other than another attempt at a media black eye for the Catholics. It's not religion that's guiding these morons. It's their ego. As I always say, it's about power.

Many women want the power they feel has been denied to them, even if it's not a matter of power really. The priesthood is power to them. It's the last bastion of 'sanctioned male-dominated' anything in the modern West, and they want to break it. That's it. No more discussion needed. I have solved the case.

If women so badly want to be priests, then they should find or found another church that allows it. Maybe, just maybe, if their actual faith is guiding them so, then maybe, just maybe, the Catholic Church isn't for them, not their true church. That's okay. 'Cause there's plenty more, just none so politically connected and so cosmically endowed with money and real estate. Ooops. There I go running back to power again. Silly me.

These folks need to understand that the Catholic Church believes what it believes, but it isn't the only Christian church. Let them believe and practice what they do and have done for a very long time. Leave them alone, and stop trying to change it 'because it is there'. That's only a reason to climb a mountain.

Date: 2005-07-22 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubix1229.livejournal.com
Here are some interesting articles on abortion in Europe I thought you might like (well, not like, but appreciate knowing about):

About the Groningen Protocol:

Official Website: http://www.azg.nl/azg/nl/english/nieuws/45613
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/983ynlcv.asp

Abortion in UK for a cleft lip:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1439312,00.html

Both a bit old news, but shocking nonetheless.

Date: 2005-07-23 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I heard the one about the cleft lip. The good news is that since scans have become very good and mothers can actually see their baby on the screen, the number of abortions, even in Europe, has gone down. Abortion, as I keep insisting, is about cowardice - it is about killing someone before s/he can look you in the face. And, would you believe, abortionists have actually started campaigning for a limitation on pre-natal visual scans...

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