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I do not think that the following facts have been widely noticed. When Dumbledore and Harry are discussing Horcruxes, Dumbledore reveals that he knows for a fact that Lucius, believing the Boss dead, has given the Riddle diary to Ginny of his own initiative. "When Voldemort discovered that the diary had been mutilated and robbed of all its powers, I am told that his anger was terrible to behold."

First point: who told him? Snape, obviously - who else could have been present at one of Voldie's temper tantrums and been able to report it to Dumbledore? Ah, but in that case, why did Snape not mention what he certainly alredy knew about the cause of Voldemort's anger with Lucius and his family, when he was speaking with Narcissa? Narcissa was under the impression that the only reason for the Boss to be mad at her family was Lucius' failure in the Ministry, but in fact the position is hugely more serious. More evidence that Snape was playing a very devious game with Narcissa and even Bellatrix. Incidentally, has anyone noticed the outright lie that he told when claiming that Dumbledore was "shaken" by his duel with Voldemort, when the only thing that actually shook him was Voldie's ultimately failed attempt to possess Harry?

Lucius, on the other hand, knows all this, and he must be aware that if he ever gets out of Azkaban while the Boss is still at large, he will wish that he had stayed inside. He may not be aware, however, that the Boss is targeting his only son and heir. When these things all come together, the Malfoys would have to be stupider than they are not to conclude that the only safe side is the one where Voldemort is not. And given that there still seems to be some sort of feeling between Narcissa and her sister, they will try to capture, disable or even convince Bellatrix to change sides. I wonder how it will end.

Date: 2005-07-28 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I don't think it's a matter of being stupid or intelligent. I think that Lucius must have been present when Voldemort went mad about the diary being destroyed; he was the only person who would know what it was about, and the one to whom Voldie would naturally ask, "Well, Malfoy, about that old diary of mine..." On the other hand, Narcissa shows no knowledge of the fact at all; if she did, she would not only know that there is no chance of changing the Dark Lord's mind (given that Lucius' tactical command of the Ministry expedition was already in the nature of a don't-fail-me-this-time second chance), but that even to show any nervousness about Draco's mission would be catastrophic.

Date: 2005-07-28 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
Unless Snape had told V-Lo about the diary's destruction before Lucius Malfoy gets a chance to confess. In which case many lols ensued and there was laughter all round.

Date: 2005-07-28 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
V-Lo? Look, old Tom Riddle is a mass murderer, a tyrant, a monster, and spectacularly ugly. But what's he ever done to you, that you should compare him to Jennifer Lopez?

On a serious note, yes, I hadn't thought about Snape telling Voldemort before Lucius had a chance. And it would be truly diabolical if it turned out that it had been Dumbledore (who had known what the diary was since before Voldie's rebirth, whereas Lucius knew nothing) had been the one who originally told Snape: "tell Voldie that the diary is destroyed, then stand back very quickly".

Date: 2005-07-28 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
V-Lo? Look, old Tom Riddle is a mass murderer, a tyrant, a monster, and spectacularly ugly. But what's he ever done to you, that you should compare him to Jennifer Lopez?
This reminds me a quote by somebody: I don't know why people keep referring to <> as science-fiction. Flying several hundreds milions miles just to kill Tom Cruise doesn;t sound too unreasonable for me".

Date: 2005-07-28 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
And that is why that's the best quote ever.

Date: 2005-07-28 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamer-marie.livejournal.com
I think that Narcissa was desperate, and trying everything to make sure Draco is safe. But I think she must have known about the diary, because even Draco knows about it in CoS. Couldn't it be that Voldemort has already punished Lucius for the diary (not to mention the fact that it looks highly suspicious if he shows he cares too much about it: the Death Eaters don't know it was a Horcrux), and that giving Draco the task of killing Dumbledore is just for the Ministry fiasco?

Date: 2005-07-28 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Ah, well, we'll see.

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