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I do not think that the following facts have been widely noticed. When Dumbledore and Harry are discussing Horcruxes, Dumbledore reveals that he knows for a fact that Lucius, believing the Boss dead, has given the Riddle diary to Ginny of his own initiative. "When Voldemort discovered that the diary had been mutilated and robbed of all its powers, I am told that his anger was terrible to behold."

First point: who told him? Snape, obviously - who else could have been present at one of Voldie's temper tantrums and been able to report it to Dumbledore? Ah, but in that case, why did Snape not mention what he certainly alredy knew about the cause of Voldemort's anger with Lucius and his family, when he was speaking with Narcissa? Narcissa was under the impression that the only reason for the Boss to be mad at her family was Lucius' failure in the Ministry, but in fact the position is hugely more serious. More evidence that Snape was playing a very devious game with Narcissa and even Bellatrix. Incidentally, has anyone noticed the outright lie that he told when claiming that Dumbledore was "shaken" by his duel with Voldemort, when the only thing that actually shook him was Voldie's ultimately failed attempt to possess Harry?

Lucius, on the other hand, knows all this, and he must be aware that if he ever gets out of Azkaban while the Boss is still at large, he will wish that he had stayed inside. He may not be aware, however, that the Boss is targeting his only son and heir. When these things all come together, the Malfoys would have to be stupider than they are not to conclude that the only safe side is the one where Voldemort is not. And given that there still seems to be some sort of feeling between Narcissa and her sister, they will try to capture, disable or even convince Bellatrix to change sides. I wonder how it will end.

Date: 2005-07-28 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfachir.livejournal.com
We're supposed to think Voldemort doesn't know when a Horcrux is destroyed and the bit of soul is released, so why is he checking up on the diary? He's not supposed to have checked up on the others, or he'd know they were not safe (or at least not hidden well enough). Seriously, if Dumbledore puts the Stone in Gringotts, why didn't Voldemort didn't stick at least one there (in a pile of fake ones)? I just don't follow - does he know they're threatened or not? Can he tell if they're destroyed or not? Can he live just as well with one (or none) intact as with 7? Too many questions about the magic. I may have to write the Slughorn Serial to sort it out after all *ducks*

Date: 2005-08-01 09:05 pm (UTC)
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Dumbledore said two things: that he thought that Voldemort was not able to perceive when a Horcrux was destroyed, since he was already so remote from the sound parts of his soul; and that he wanted the diary used as a weapon. It is exactly for this reason that Lucius had incurred his displeasure: he had done it at the wrong time. I think that Snape was present as Voldemort exploded and reported it all to Dumbledore, from which Dumbledore deduced that Voldemort could not feel when a Horcrux was destroyed.

Date: 2005-08-01 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfachir.livejournal.com
Voldemort was already incorporeal when the diary was destroyed, so that might have had an effect on his perception, too. But I would have thought he'd be especially sensitive to the loss in that state? Still too many questions for me.

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