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I gave it to one particular person, and now I repeat it to everyone of the dozens of sad, vindictive, time-wasting twerps who cannot seem to live without finding something to blame me for.

Of us two, which one values the other the more? Which one goes looking for the other's writing, seeking for reasons to be indignant and sarcastic, hanging on to whatever reference may be twisted into a reason, an excuse, a springboard of any sort, merely to attach your name to mine? To me, you mean very little, except perhaps an occasional opportunity to be sarcastic at your expense. What is it that makes me so important in your eyes, that you just insist on commenting on me, as if I mattered? And, please, don't give me the usual nonsense about me being a pseud. The world is full of pseuds, but other pseuds like you do not generally get obsessed with them.

And now I have a suggestion for you. Forget I exist and do something constructive. Leave f_w and other similar gathering-points for inadequates and - write a song; write a story; draw something; start an OU degree - Hell, get a a CIMA qualification, become an accountant, draw up the accounts for a company. Do something saner with your time than persecute someone you do not know for reasons that do not exist.

Date: 2006-09-02 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
You have such a dramatic-seeming and very full online life. I don't do any fandom stuff (though I've enjoyed the few items of *yours* that I've read), so I'm not really a party to it, but the parts of it that spill over into your LJ are very intense. I'd wither in the heat if it were me involved--but at one remove it's highly charged without being deadly.

Date: 2006-09-03 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
He definitely gets more heat than the average fan. Partially it's because he's a part of the HP fandom - far more batshit than most fandoms.

Date: 2006-09-03 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Yeah... because a fun, detail-filled story is a natural catalyst for scary online arguments...?

Or, as the person reading under my shoulder says (see, she's got the chair and I'm standing typing...), "the more characters, the more random pairings that you can tick people off with!!"

But that's not what ticks people off about FPB's posts, I'm gathering...

Date: 2006-09-03 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
Actually, one theory I've heard, that makes a lot of since, called HP a "feral fandom." They pointed out that a lot of fans were very young, and had Harry Potter as their first fandom - with no experience to fall back on, they were more likely to make a lot of common mistakes, like idolizing fanfic writers, believing bullshit, getting too passionately involved ... and they tended to look up to anyone older than them, so the adult and college-aged fans got a lot more power than they could handle.

Thus was born the shipping wars, the Inner Circle, Msscribe, most of F_W fodder for the next how many years ...

Date: 2006-09-03 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
interesting! sort of a Lord of the Flies fandom thing :-D

Date: 2006-09-03 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
Very apt comparison.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Now don't get this wrong, and I hope you're not offended, but I had no idea libertarians did sociology. And clever sociology too!

Date: 2006-09-03 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
I, too, am full of surprises! :)

Date: 2006-09-03 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Er... does that include spelling "sense" as "since"?

Urk... two wisecracks in a row, which might suggest sarcasm, perhaps even hostility - and I really do not want that. But you did misspell it - check out six entries upthread.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
Oh, crap. That's the sort of typo I make all the time.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Everyone does. In wank threads, however, they like to pretend that it is a profound error in English caused by the fact that you (I) are (am) a sad little unenlightened Italian ignoramus. True!

Date: 2006-09-03 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
w00t - "I'm Italian, btw." is on FPB Bingo! (http://users.rcn.com/mindset/wank/fpbbingo.png) It's out of date, though, and they should repalce NarcissaM with Pyratejenni already.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Well, you have no idea what used to happen in superhero fandom, and that was before the Net came in...

Date: 2006-09-03 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
Nope; not something I'm familiar with.

I do know some things about Star Trek fandom pre-web, and that was really something. They invented slash.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Superhero fandom was 95% male - for all I know, it still is - so I think it was not very interested in slash. Femmeslash, now... but I quit seven years ago, and heaven only knows how things have changed since. But as for fighting and ferocity, you should read some of the old COMICS JOURNALs - "anyone who disagrees with MY stance is a sold-out, lowbrow, anti-intellectual, mercenary enemy of the noble artform of comics!"

Date: 2006-09-03 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
OMG, that's hilarious!

You know, after I got used to fandom, I started seeing everything in fandom terms. Some of those old academic wars about the interpretation of Shakespeare? Totally wanky.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
True. My master, and the greatest historian, perhaps, in the twentieth century, was a man called Georges Dumezil. He was outspoken and inventive, and trod on dozens if not hundreds of professorial corns. So one day, another historian - and a respected one, too, would you believe it = organized a symposium in London "about" Dumezil's work, without letting either Dumezil or any of his friends or supporters know it!! Now that's one thing that Heidi and co. haven't thought of yet...

Date: 2006-09-03 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
Well, it would be hard to keep something like that a secret, what with the Internet and all.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Well, they weren't able to, anyway. But can you beat it, an international scholarly symposium, with all the usual trappings of university hospitality and so on, all in order to trash the work of one man?

Date: 2006-09-03 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
Nope, nope. I can't beat that.

Unless you want to take Encyclopedia Dramaticae's (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Fandom) view of Western religion.

Date: 2006-09-03 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I think I'll skip. Besides, I have a few hundred music files to convert to MP3 format, apart from all the usual fuss, so this is apt to be a busy busy busy little morning. I wonder how people ever have the time to go on F_w?

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