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The nearly insane and completely distorting hatred with which the Bush II presidency has been treated by a considerable part of the public and the media, and for which Republican supporters have found an apt and amusing name – Bush Derangement Syndrome – is, in itself, not a good thing; but it is a symptom. People resent Bush in a way they resented nobody before, save perhaps for the searing hatred that some Republican circles felt for Bill Clinton in his prime. Of course, American politics has always been open to overstatement and unscrupulous rabble-rousing. Washington himself was the target of some astonishing name-calling, and European refugees who reached safety after barely survived the murderous attentions of their domestic governments were astonished, and often disgusted, to hear conservative Americans describe Franklin D.Roosevelt as being as dangerous as Hitler. But that was not often intended. At best, it was the froth on partisan anger; at worst, the calculated intent to exploit such anger. It is true that – thanks to the supposed “right to bear arms” – some American presidents have died by violence; but, except for one, none had to do with a domestic partisan debate grown as poisonous as it is today. President McKinley was killed by a Hungarian anarchist, and President Kennedy by a Communist; both more to do with foreign subversion than with native political struggle. President Garfield’s murder had something to do with contemporary politics, but more with what I would regard as something essentially non-political – corruption in public office. (His murderer, who was not quite sane, felt that Garfield was standing in the way of members of his own party being hired en masse by the state. He would have been hideously disappointed had he lived to find that his successor Chester Arthur, in spite of being a creature of the same corrupt system, put an end to it and generally acted above party lines.)

The only real parallel – though one that does Bush II more honour than he honestly deserves – is with the murder of Lincoln. There has been no civil war, and, with any luck, there will be no violence of that kind; but there is a fundamental resemblance between our time and his. In my first essay I pointed out that the classic form of American politics, the duopoly of Republicans and Democrats, lasted from the eighteen-fifties to the nineteen-sixties, when it began to alter out of recognition. In other words, then and now, the United States were at a stage of great political change, when new forces became focused in new formations. Even had there been no civil war, the Lincoln presidency would effectively have counted as a revolution – the first triumph of the party that was from then on to stand for the “republican” virtues of the leading classes of the country. But the forces that were losing in that historical change had seen the change coming, and had long made it clear that they would not tolerate it. Indeed, a friendly foreign observer, the French Count Agenor de Gasparin, saw the 1860 election as “the uprising of a great people” – the revolt of the American majority, indubitably Northern in manners and moral, against the blackmailing veto of the South, which, in his view, affected the country like a tyranny.

Of course, the south hardly saw it the same way. The south felt that the America they knew, the America they had wanted to belong to, was no longer the America in which they were forced to live. Within a human lifetime – Lincoln’s “fourscore and seven years” – the Union had gone from a grouping in which Virginia was the leading state and the south at least an equal partner, to one in which the south was being reduced to minority in numbers – as the count of states on either side showed in 1860 – and irrelevancy in business, where the growth of the industrial and agrarian north was answered by the apparition of a previously unknown southern poor white class.

The truth is that there were physical limits to the possible expansion of southern society; limits that corresponded to the area where slave labour could be profitably used. To the contrary, a “northern” kind of society could be set up anywhere, so long as there were no masses of slaves, and, indeed, few blacks altogether. The entry of Texas in the Union as a southern state was more than counterbalanced by the entry of California and Oregon – states that had nothing geographically to do with Massachusetts or Pennsylvania, but that had no slaves and little need for any.

They reacted with rage. Their sense of disorientation, deprivation and humiliation grew yearly stronger. Indeed, southern rage became institutional; all American politics from about 1830 to 1860 was calculated on the need to appease the southern bloc, which had already once, in the Nullification crisis of 1837, come close to secession.

It is the bitter, distorting fury of the south that seems to me mirrored, interestingly enough, in the attitudes of both parties today. I see this same sense of not recognizing the political landscape, of having had your country stolen from you, that emanates both from Democrats and from Republicans. They say as much: both a Michael Moore and a Michelle Malkin will say quite frankly, “The America that these people want is not the country I grew up in. It is not the country I know and love.”

And this rage seems to me diagnostic. It is my thesis that it is exactly to a semi-revolutionary process of this kind, and to the displacement it causes, that current Democrats and Republicans are reacting with such fury. The fierce hatred of many Republicans for the Clinton administration surprised and bewildered the rest of the world; only to give way to the equally bewildering hatred of Bush II among most of his opponents. It is my view that this is caused by a major genetic mutation that has struck both parties, and indeed much of American society.

Date: 2006-12-05 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncwright.livejournal.com
"It is true that – thanks to the supposed “right to bear arms”--"

The use of the word 'supposed' in that sentence is incorrect. As far as the law is concerned, Americans do indeed have a right to bear arms, and this right is unambiguously announced in our founding documents. Even between Left and Right in my country, the only debate is the extent of the exercise of the right. No one questions its reality in our laws.

I suggest you use a word like 'unwise' or simply say you wished Americans did not have the right, or did not exercise it. Such would be a matter of opinion, and you would be welcome to it. As it stands, you are making a statment contrary to fact.

Date: 2006-12-05 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goreism.livejournal.com
In point of fact, some constitutional scholars believe the Second Amendment just protects the right of states to form militias. Case law is inconsistent on the matter, since the Supreme Court has consistently refused to clarify this unambiguously. The Wikipedia article covers this in more detail.

Militiamen are also Americans

Date: 2006-12-05 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncwright.livejournal.com
In point of fact, I am an attorney who has studied Constitutional law, and I read the Federalist Papers, and I have read United States v. Miller (307 U.S. 174) and I have read United States v. Emerson (46 F.Supp.2d 598), which contains (in this lawyer's opinion) the clearest legal findings on the issue. (see http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/5th/9910331cr0.html).

While I am not an expert, I am well read enough to state that I am not stating an opinion or an argument, but a fact: since the Militia in America would consist of 'Americans', it is not a matter open to reasonable difference of opinion. Americans have a right to bear arms.

Whether they should have this right, or whether its exercise should be curtailed, or how, is open to debate, or whether it is collective or individual.

That the right itself exists is not open to debate. No legal scholar says the right itself is merely a supposition. No founding document supports that position. It is wrong. We are not talking about something like the supposed Right to Privacy, which comes from an emanation of a penumbra of interpretive jurisprudence.

Whether this right was responsible for the assassinations of American Presidents is also matter of debate, and open to question. The cause and effect here is what lawyers call 'but for' ("But for the Second Amendment, the assassinations would not have occurred, and therefore the Amendment bears at least some of the responsibility.")

To speak of the right as 'supposed' is an error of fact, as much as if we said Armstrong set foot on the 'supposed' moon. We might think the moon is airless or hostile or causes lunacy, but we cannot say it does not exist.

Mr. Barbieri is a brilliant commentator on American politics, and I say he shows more insight than most professional political commentators, and let us not jam up his comments boxes with a debate about a single wrong word in an otherwise majestic writing.

Mr. Barbieri simply needs a different word than 'supposed'-- he means the right is dangerous or foolish or monstrous. Indeed, if he merely said 'the supposed right of the individual Americans to bear arms' the sentence would be defensible as a matter of solid legal opinion. Perhaps that is what he meant: if so, I misunderstood him and I apologize, but he can avoid the appearance of error by adding a single word to the sentence.

Re: Militiamen are also Americans

Date: 2006-12-05 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goreism.livejournal.com
While I am not an expert, I am well read enough to state that I am not stating an opinion or an argument, but a fact: since the Militia in America would consist of 'Americans', it is not a matter open to reasonable difference of opinion. Americans have a right to bear arms.

Apparently we interpret "Americans have a right to bear arms." in different ways. I read it as "[All] Americans have a right to bear arms." whereas you apparently see it as meaning "[There are some Americans such that those] Americans have a right to bear arms." This is the old de dicto/de re distinction that Frege went on about; such sentences are inherently ambiguous. If you say reading it in the latter way is the more natural way in English, I will take your word for it, since you're (presumably) the native speaker, not I.

Sorry to derail [livejournal.com profile] fpb's comment thread even more!

Re: Militiamen are also Americans

Date: 2006-12-06 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncwright.livejournal.com
The ambiguity, if indeed there is one (I have my doubts), is in the wording of the Second Amendment, which says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Infringed here means that even legislature of indirect effect is prohibited: the Congress of the general government cannot make it.

Whether this refers to the people in their capacity as individuals or in their collective capacity as militiamen is open to debate: but in either case they are Americans, and in either case they have that right, as a matter of plain fact, no debate, no question, case closed. It is not a supposition.

Obviously, no legal scholar interprets the passage to mean that 'all' Americans, including the inmates of jails and madhouses, have a right to bear arms. The passage means that the ancient right of free men to bear arms, a right understood in the light of English Common law, cannot be abridged by the Congress.

The degree to which local governments can limit the ownership of arms without running afoul of the 14th Amendment (which applies at least some Bill of Rights provisions against the State governments) is one not yet settled by a clear Supreme Court case.

Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2006-12-05 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
It is true that – thanks to the supposed “right to bear arms” – some American presidents have died by violence ...

Aside from the point that John Wright made that this "right to bear arms" is very real -- you're directly quoting the Second Amendment when you state it in that form -- I'm not sure to what extent gun control would have prevented any of the Presidential murders. A man who has decided to kill a President -- an act which is very likely to be fatal to himself (no successful Presidential assassin, historically, has survived the commission of his crime by even one year) -- is not likely to be deterred by any reasonable penalty for unlawful possession and use of a firearm. Booth was a Confederate agent, and agents of any Powers have never had difficulty obtaining firearms; Oswald was connected to either (or both!) the pro- and anti-Communist violent undergrounds and ditto there; you might be able to make a case for Czgolsz (sp?) or Guiteau having been stopped by the difficulty of getting a gun, but given their determination I think that only Czgolsz might have been checked -- by his poverty.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2006-12-05 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superversive.livejournal.com
There was, indeed, no right to bear arms in Austria-Hungary under the Habsburgs. This does not seem to have done the Archduke Ferdinand much good. And the crazy people who blow themselves up with explosives so that they may take large numbers of Jews, American and allied soldiers, and other infidels with them — whom the media give far too much respect by calling them suicide bombers — these people, too, live in countries where no right to bear arms is acknowledged by the state. Not much help, is it?

In other words, I agree.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2006-12-05 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
The mistake you all make in this context is to imagine that the abdication of the State from one of its most basic rights - the exclusive use of violence and weapons - does not do anything towards altering the mentality of people at large. If you are told you have a right to bear arms, it is a natural consequent that you have a right to use them whenever it seems right to you. Although European politics have in general been more violent than American, assassination in Europe has been much rarer than in America. In spite of the fact that many British governments have been deeply unpopular, the last British Prime Minister to be assassinated (and the only one ever) was Stanley Percival in 1806; the last English king, Henry VI. The tyrannical kings of France only lost one of their number - Henry IV - to assassination; and before the deaths of Elizabeth and Franz Ferdinand, I cannot recall a single Habsburg who was ever murdered, even though that house has the European record for length and oppressiveness of reign. No Hohenzollern ever failed to die in his bed, and only one Savoy. It is only in the peculiar and barbarous conditions of the empires of Russia and Turkey that political assassination approached American levels.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2006-12-05 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncwright.livejournal.com
"If you are told you have a right to bear arms, it is a natural consequent that you have a right to use them whenever it seems right to you."

I am not sure if this is true. Members of the arms bearing classes in European monarchies did not have the opinion that they could use them whenever it seemed right to them. The peers and nobles and armed freedmen bore weapons in their sovereign defense, and both in theory and in law, the use was not a matter of private opinion.

All that is going on here is that the Englishmen who founded America took the established right of free-born Englishmen to bear arms and prohibited the Congress of the general government from making any law to abridge the same. In effect, everyone in America is of the knightly class.

It is also alien to Enlightenment political theory to speak of the Second Amendment as an abdication of the State of its most basic right. We, the people, we are the state. The governments of the several states are merely our servants and administration, who serve for fixed periods of time, but at our pleasure. The general government is a federation of these several sovereign states. We, the people, can no more be said to have abdicated the exclusive right of violence than we can be said to have denied ourselves of the police power or the right to free speech. Our government is the opposite of a monarchy: our administration receives a grant of power to use on our behalf which comes from us. We are sovereign.

Considering the stability of our government over and above any government in Europe, with the possible exception of the English Monarchy, to chide us for violence seems a difficult proposition to maintain, unless you restrict your comments to a carefully sculpted period of years. The dynastic wars of France and England, the endless brutal fighting among the Italian city-states, the oppressions, wars, and Inquisitions of the Spanish Monarch do not speak favorably of restricting the use of arms to a special noble class. We have had one Civil War and one peaceful usurpation of power by FDR. New Hampshire has never fought Maine, despite the alleged "natural consequent" that we all think we have a right to use them "whenever it seems right".

Let us see what another brilliant Italian political theorist has to say on the matter:

"And experience has shown ... it is more difficult to bring a republic, armed with its own arms, under the sway of one of its citizens than it is to bring one armed with foreign arms. Rome and Sparta stood for many ages armed and free. The Switzers are completely armed and quite free."

This is Machiavelli, THE PRINCE, Chap 12, which I assume you read in grammar school. He goes on to speak of using mercenaries to fight for you as something which has brought Italy into slavery and contempt.

I assume the same sort of comments as apply to mercenaries would apply to a situation where we restricted the use of arms to special groups, the bodyguards of the rich and powerful, the military and the police. Having special cadres ruling over an unarmed population of plebeians (for, if they are unarmed, we cannot call them citizens) is something Machiavelli would not approve of.

Since your main point, which I think is very clear and well said, is to warn of the emergence of a new aristocracy among the United States, I ask you if matters would be better for us if the use of arms was restricted only to them and to their supporters? If guns were banned in the USA, whom do you think would have the power and prestige to get special permits to carry them, aside from the very wealthy and their bodyguards and sentries? Do you think all these new palaces being erected will go undefended?

I am asking a serious question. It is the Democrats here who usually back gun control, and the Republicans who usually back the NRA. This strikes me as one of the paradoxes similar to what you analyze here: restricting arms to the well-to-do should be a Republican scheme, and protecting poor blacks from predation by arming them should be a Democrat rallying point. Instead we see the opposite.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-01-01 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Machiavelli's criticism of the Italian use of mercenaries is known to every schoolchild in Italy. But he was not arguing for uncontrolled possession of weapons among the citizenry, which is the issue here, and which was hardly an issue in his time (there was hardly a male human being who did not own at least a dagger); rather, he was arguing for conscript citizen armies. And even so, he was talking nonsense, and doing so for a deeply personal and at the same time national reason.

Machiavelli wrote in a time of catastrophe, as the states of Italy, which had been for centuries the cultural and economic heartland of Europe, were being ravaged and colonized by far less civilized but militarily far stronger enemies from across the mountains. Machiavelli himself had taken a leading part in the heroic last stand of the Florentine republic, which was destroyed by a (mercenary) imperial army; three years later, that same army stormed and destroyed Rome. Nothing on earth could have stopped that collapse: given that the King of France, the Emperor/Archduke of Austria/King of Bohemia and Hungary, and the King of Castile, could each raise more than a hundred thousand trained fighting men from their own resources, with the latest in cannon and weaponry, no Italian state or coalition of Italian states except Venice had the power to resist. Venice had two aces to play: its impregnable position in the swamps (as late as 1849 the victorious armies of Field-Marshal Radetzky were unable to storm the city and had to starve it into submission) and its tremendous naval strength. Even so, she had repeatedly to use both almost to destruction in its struggle to survive repeated French, German and Spanish assaults between 1505 and the early 1600s. Venice, strategically positioned and militarily strong, did not particularly need a citizen militia to survive; Florence, in spite of the heroic struggle of all its citizens in the grim year 1524, fell like a ripe apple.

Clearly, to argue that this is due to anything except relative force in arms is nonsense. But Machiavelli could not admit it, because he could not bring himself, a citizen of the noblest and loveliest town in the loveliest country in Europe, to admit that nothing but facts and balance of power had doomed Florence. His attitude, in fact, was pretty much that of modern Communists. Communism hasn't failed, comrades; it has just never been put to the test. The remedy to the failures of Communism is more and purer Communism. Just so, as Machiavelli insisted in believing, city militias had not failed to save Florence; they had just never been tried - not properly. A more thorough-going city militia, a more thoroughly trained populace, an even more extensively armed manhood, could have.... er, could it really have driven back the imperial hordes? Not really, but don't tell old Niccolo' that. He won't listen. And I have to add that his whole imagination of a superhumanly shrewd, all-conquering, never tired, never miscalculating, always betraying but never betrayed Prince was just another such fantasy - an attempt to imagine a way in which the catastrophe of Renaissance Italy could have been avoided. It is enough to say against it, that the most genuinely successful and - in the popular sense - machiavellian politician in history, Frederick II of Prussia, condemned Machiavelli's writings beyond appeal. Just by being a classically machiavellian plotter, he knew that the machiavellian image of the plotter is a fantasy.

I have a lot more to say about your post, but I wonder whether I will find the time. This whole "plague on both your houses" thing is becoming a plague in more than one sense.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-28 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
Well I have a natural desire to point out to you that state violence against unarmed citizens has been somewhat more of a feature of European history than American. If you asked a normal person to choose between genocide and regicide what answer do you think you'd get?

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-28 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
From me, you would get a T for Troll and an invitation to study a bit more history. Genocide is not typical of European history, whatever American ideologues may like to imagine. Y ustedes, que hacien a los Indios?

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-28 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
Nada. Mi gente estaba en irlandes, comiendo papas.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-28 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
So you should be aware that, in European history, the specialists in genocide are the English-speakers. If we want to discuss organized mass violence, only the very worst moments of the most vicious internecine warfare ever visited on any part of the European continent the kinds of horrors that passed for ordinary governance in Ireland from Elizabeth I to 1798.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-28 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
Against a barely armed, poorly organized populace. You're proving my point.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-28 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
If the Irish were poorly armed, it was not through their choice. In fact, the only thing that even begins to explain, though never to excuse, the obscenity of British occupation was that if the Irish were ever given half a chance, they would revolt; and so, their masters ground them lower and lower, until they were reduced to an illiterate, penniless rabble kept alive by potatoes - and then the blight, with willing support from the oh-so-Liberal Lord Russell, completed the work.

Re: Gun Control and Assassinations

Date: 2007-04-29 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Nonsense, I am arguing that Britain's policies of extermination - faithfully imported by the English Americans in the matter of Indians - were something altogether extraordinary in the European context. Spain ruled a discontented Italy. a country its own size, for a century and a half, with no need for any of the vicious brutality with which Britain ruled little Ireland and the Americans subdued the powerless Indians. Ditto Austria and Bohemia, Austria and Hungary, Spain and the Spanish empire. Only in Turkey, and to a lesser extent in Russia, did any such things happen. Ah, yes, and in the piratical Dutch empire, where the answer to, say, Chinese commercial competition could be to murder 100,000 Chinese from one day to the next. But then, the Dutch and the English are pretty much one ilk. The notion of mass murder as a tool of government is an Anglo-Saxon one and a Dutch one. The rest of us had a brief infatuation with it in the twentieth century. So your foolish statement about mass murder being an average fear of the European citizen is exactly wrong. I am putting this in a somewhat provocative manner, but your insulting and infuriatingly ignorant opening left me no choice. As I said, T for troll.

Date: 2007-04-28 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
I am curious: what do you think the proper reaction of a young adult should be upon realization that the world he was raised to join is no longer there?

Date: 2007-04-28 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I am not condemning anyone. What I said is: this is diagnostic. As for the world where I grew up being no longer there... I was born in the sixties. I think I know a little about it.

Date: 2007-04-28 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
No seriously, what do you think we should do? I lean towards expatriation which seems to be the route you have chosen.

Date: 2007-04-28 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
No. The reason why I live in London has curly brown hair and blue eyes - and married the other guy, so I'm a fool, too. But I really do not see that anyone can "do" anything about the mood of millions of people on both sides. Even if my diagnosis is correct, I do not see that it gives us any ground to act upon. You see, elsewhere in this debate you had a thing or two to say about poisonous bureaucracies dominated by PC morons; but these things are a by-product of the dominance of the intellectual aristocracy I described in "Mutant Democrats" over the media and education. The problems are interlocked, and if we want to fight the social evils of our time (and I regard the rise of the new aristocracies as a 100% sho'nuff Evil with a capital E) we have to fight on several fronts, and it is hard to tell whether anything we try will not in fact make matters worse.

Date: 2007-04-28 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
That's easy for you say since she married the other guy and you don't have to figure out what to do with the children of the union that didn't happen.

I recently spent 3 months in Singapore and it was very sobering. The option of raising children in a functioning foreign culture rather than their disintegrating native one is very appealing.

Date: 2007-04-28 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
She had two children when I met her, and was an excellent mother from what I could judge, with an authority barely credible in a small baby-faced creature with big ingenuous blue eyes. And believe me when I say that, to marry her, I would have crawled on bare hands and feet over miles of broken glass; I would have spent ten years in jail. She was my heroine, the love of my life, and the kind of person you meet once in a lifetime.

Other than than, I do have a certain idea of the difficulties of living a decent married life. But living decently has never been easy - only the difficulties have changed.

Date: 2007-04-29 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com
That is the most romantic thing I have read in a long time. ::curtsies::

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