Re: Um ... huh, what?

Date: 2007-05-15 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patchworkmind.livejournal.com
It seems to me he is attempting to "own" a characteristic attributed to gays that has been, and still is, negatively connotated. The psychology of it goes, as I understand it, if you can "take control" of something negative then you can "conquer" it. Alas, I feel he may still have self-image problems, despite his efforts at 'interpretation'. I've seen this before, this pop psychology variant, and it's never worked for those who've tried it. Self-acceptance, self-image, self-confidence start from within, not from defacing what's around you. So many people these days attempt to mask immaturity and childishness in the guise of creativity and free-spiritedness that it makes my skin crawl.

What gave me a start were the folks who piled on to [livejournal.com profile] nattybumpo because he expressed an opinion and asked a perfectly reasonable question. I seriously contemplating meandering in and engaging, but I quickly recalled there is no engaging that type of people.

Sad, sad, sad. Truly. Not, however, beyond belief. Relativism is the order of the day, my friend. Alas.

Re: Um ... huh, what?

Date: 2007-05-15 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
What gave me a start were the folks who piled on to [profile] nattybumpo because he expressed an opinion and asked a perfectly reasonable question
There is an odd fact - between yesterday and today, [profile] nattybumpo seems to have closed his/her LJ account. It is possible that s/he was a sockpuppet (it's not only the "opposite party" who use them); or else s/he was so disgusted by the reaction, that s/he left LJ altogether. That would be understandable, although, from my point of view - I have had one or two such run-ins - it shows a poor spirit.
But as for the ferocity of the homosexualist party - welcome to Western Civilization, 2007. I have experienced these people more than once in the recent past. In the last five years or so, a kind of grouping has grown, especially in universities and homosexualist associations, that has all the characteristics of a genuine fascist movement: intolerance, violence, groupthink, and fantasies of violence and murder. In the years to come, we will be meeting them more and more. I wish I knew what could be done about them.

Re: Um ... huh, what?

Date: 2007-05-15 08:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filialucis
"There is an odd fact - between yesterday and today, [livejournal.com profile] nattybumpo seems to have closed his/her LJ account."

As it turns out they haven't; there's a typo in the user name as mentioned in this discussion. I just followed the link to the discussion in [livejournal.com profile] linguaphiles and it turns out the poster in question is [livejournal.com profile] nattybumppo, and still very much around. (I somewhat wish I hadn't followed the link, though. The comments right here would have told me all I need to know about the quality of that particular thread...)

Re: Um ... huh, what?

Date: 2007-05-15 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Good. So I can withdraw the negative hypothesis I entertained about his/her behaviour, and apologize (if s/he ever finds this thread). But I agree, I have not gone back to that particular thread. I know all too well the kind of people it would attract.

Re: Um ... huh, what?

Date: 2007-05-15 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patchworkmind.livejournal.com
In the last five years or so, a kind of grouping has grown, especially in universities and homosexualist associations, that has all the characteristics of a genuine fascist movement: intolerance, violence, groupthink, and fantasies of violence and murder. In the years to come, we will be meeting them more and more.

Indeed. I've had my share of run-ins, and it's... well, it's disheartening. Many thoughtlessly and willfully terrible things are being done in the name of progressivism and liberty -- the same as always. Everyone wants legitimacy, and it never ceases to amaze me the depths to which they will go to think they're getting it.

Re: Um ... huh, what?

Date: 2007-05-15 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quantanephilim.livejournal.com
"I wish I knew what could be done about them."

Falangism works nicely, but I don't think that's the solution you're looking for. ;)

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