Once again, A CURSE ON THE PARTY SPIRIT
May. 22nd, 2008 07:51 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Is there anything else that would lead people to accept and defend complete rubbish, to hold up stuff that demeans their own intellect, to insult anyone who disagrees, and, worst of all, to completely abandon any shred of critical attitude, insisting that that which flatters our party positions is therefore sacred and untouchable?
I have come to the edge of a break with people I really like, and that is not the first time. But damn it to Hell, what do they expect me to - falsify my own life experience and the history of my country (on which every Italian alive or dead would answer as I do), accept a thesis that is not just false but obviously false, not just politically motivated but obviously politically motivated, and that for no reason except in order to preserve a personal relationship? If that were the case, that would be emotional blackmail. And yet I see no other reason for the rabid and repetitious attacks I have been subjected since I attacked a certain instance of American pamphleteering. It is as if someone were telling me that no peaceful relationship with them is possible unless I give in to their delusions. And that I not only will not, but cannot do.
Edited in: I imagine that the lurkers and wankers who were still following this LJ only a few weeks back will decide to hold back on this argument. It is the sort of thing they love, is it not - FPB arguing with someone? Only in this case it is not the kind of argument they want to present; it would not answer their prejudices, and might even lead their fans to wonder who is in the right after all.
Sometimes I really get tired.
I have come to the edge of a break with people I really like, and that is not the first time. But damn it to Hell, what do they expect me to - falsify my own life experience and the history of my country (on which every Italian alive or dead would answer as I do), accept a thesis that is not just false but obviously false, not just politically motivated but obviously politically motivated, and that for no reason except in order to preserve a personal relationship? If that were the case, that would be emotional blackmail. And yet I see no other reason for the rabid and repetitious attacks I have been subjected since I attacked a certain instance of American pamphleteering. It is as if someone were telling me that no peaceful relationship with them is possible unless I give in to their delusions. And that I not only will not, but cannot do.
Edited in: I imagine that the lurkers and wankers who were still following this LJ only a few weeks back will decide to hold back on this argument. It is the sort of thing they love, is it not - FPB arguing with someone? Only in this case it is not the kind of argument they want to present; it would not answer their prejudices, and might even lead their fans to wonder who is in the right after all.
Sometimes I really get tired.
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Date: 2008-05-23 12:40 am (UTC)As for climate of opinion, try having lived here between 2001 and 2005, when even the slightest criticism of Bush got you thrown into the "stupid hippy, won't don't you move to Iraq if you love it so much" category. That's always been around, certainly during the Reagan years, but to see otherwise sane people that I knew and worked with converted to that kind of spewing... that was something else.
And I think the Internet is a wholly different climate than "real" life. Something about this medium simply generates arguments and bile that would never arise in interpersonal conversation or even the more measured correspondence of letter writing. As Clay Shirky has noted, the Internet and social networks have allowed fringe cultures to band together, and this strengthens their sensitivity rather than mellowing it. Before, a misunderstood loner could always doubt that he was in the right. Now, he's got a bunch of people to back up any inane thing he says. I'm not bashing fringe cultures here -- I have a lot of sympathy with them, and consider myself part of some of them (comics, gaming, etc.). But their members are -- understandably -- oversensitive in the first place. Give them strength in numbers, and the Mob begins to grow.
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Date: 2008-05-23 04:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-23 01:46 pm (UTC)But all that aside, in case I didn't say it earlier (and I guess I didn't), I do appreciate your take-down of Goldberg. The fact is, most people in America understands Socialism or even has a clue what it us. I've got a lot of Libertarian friends (who in the sci-fi community here doesn't?) and have had to argue against this point before. I'm glad to have some actual historical ammunition now.
It really comes down to the tempting symmetry of simplification. The Right loves to pigeon-hole the Left as collectivist and the Right as individualist. Facts don't matter -- those just get in the way of a nicely simple argument that can be ranted via radio (Neil Boortz, for instance).
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Date: 2008-05-23 01:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-23 03:41 pm (UTC)