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I thought to insulate people who were not up to it from the shock of my opinions on a couple of matters; and the very fact that I announced it led directly to it breaking down. It was a reaction to it that caused the response that became my last post. Apparently I cannot manage to avoid controversy even if I try. Well, so be it. As it is now, I doubt whether I will ever use the Credenti group again.

An unserious note

Date: 2009-04-08 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Please do not think that I am speaking seriously, but:
According to science and the theory of evolution, the human race (homo sapiens) has been around for something like 170,000 years.
According to creationists, the whole world has been around for less than 10,000 years.
You seem to think that the existence of something for 5,000 years proves that it is fundamental to the human race.
This does not really hold well if you believe that the human race is 170,000 (that is, 34 times 5,000) years old.
You don't happen to be a Young Earth creationist, by any chance?

Re: An unserious note

Date: 2009-04-08 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Extrapolating from existing hunter-gatherer tribes, divorce would be a lot older than 5000 years. But written records cut out before then, so there's no hard evidence either way.

Re: An unserious note

Date: 2009-04-08 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Which is why people generally define ius naturale differently. The same argument would justify male paedophilia, which is popular across many civilized and primitive groups. Not to mention cannibalism (the Aztecs), incest (the Zoroastrian Persians) and brother-murder (the Ottoman Turks).

P.S.

Date: 2009-04-08 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Exactly the same argument applies to the Naturvoelker of the world. It took just as much time for the Inuit or the Khoisan to develop to their present (or recent) state of culture, as it did the Italians or the Chinese. You cannot deduce natural law from the law of any nation currently in the world, even if we assume that it existed with the original human tribe, and that the original human tribe was hunting-gathering.

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