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I thought to insulate people who were not up to it from the shock of my opinions on a couple of matters; and the very fact that I announced it led directly to it breaking down. It was a reaction to it that caused the response that became my last post. Apparently I cannot manage to avoid controversy even if I try. Well, so be it. As it is now, I doubt whether I will ever use the Credenti group again.
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The reason I brought up sacramental marriage is that (as Fabio noted) I think it closely reflects the archetype. What I wanted to draw attention to in doing so was that (whatever the classical world did), marriage in the West from the Christian era on was until very recently much closer to that archetype than it is now.

But my point is this: since the advent of no-fault divorce, many marriages have been contracted which secular law would have, not all that long ago, deemed invalid. The decline has been recent and very dramatic.

As a matter of fact, the Church does recognize a broader category of "natural" marriage outside the Church, which would apply to at least some of the classical examples. I suppose there is still a problem in that we have now departed much further from the ideal than even the classical world -- the classical world, for example, at least understood reproduction as an ordinary integral part of marriage.
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On the other hand, I think that even our friend would have some trouble with Cato's "loan" of his wife Porcia.
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(I think you meant Marcia.) Wasn't that also an aberration from the point of view of Cato's contemporaries?

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