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The Supreme Court of California deserves honour for having gone against its own clear views in the service of the law and the people. What it will get is something I am familiar with: the most vicious, sustained and homicidal floods of hate-mail you can NOT imagine. If you haven't been at the ugly end of a homosexualist hate campaign, you simply have no idea what hatred is like. It is not only frightful, it is foul; it is a thing that makes you feel dirty even if you resist it, that makes you want to turn back and abandon the field merely because it is so disgusting. Even standing against it is depressing and frightening. I just hope the justices are prepared for what awaits them.

Date: 2009-05-26 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Why "never mind"?

As for all the trends being downward - you mean those same trends that informed you, before the referendum, that Prop 8 was indubitably going to lose? And in view of the brutal tactics, complete coherence of the whole leading class (politics, business, media, Hollywood) and vicious contempt aimed at the supporters of Prop 8, the 52% of citizens who had the courage to vote in its favour count for well beyond their numbers. And since I do - as I repeat - have some little experience of homosexualist fighting methods, I would be grateful if you did not sneer at this remark.

Date: 2009-05-26 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
I don't believe I was "informed" that Prop 8 was indubitably going to lose; polls were close. The trend is that Prop 22 passed with 61% of the vote, plus the recent wave of decisions, laws, and polls this year, and the fact that the younger generation is substantially in favor of gay marriage.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/26/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5040555.shtml

On the flip side, Prop 8 had lots of church support and funding, and lots of lies being told about how churches would be forced to perform gay marriages.

Date: 2009-05-26 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Lies? In this country, it's about to happen, and it ain't lies, it's a government bill being steered through the House of Commons. And if happens here, they - and you - will want it to happen there. So don't give me that crap. Supporters of "gay marriage" are the ones who lie - and that includes the media from which you take your line.

Date: 2009-05-26 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Your telepathy is failing. I have no interest in churches being forced to perform marriage rituals they disapprove of. As for the bill, can you point me to it? I only see mention of a bill regarding employment discrimination in non-key posts.

Date: 2009-05-26 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Non-key posts being defined as anything short of bishop. What the bill means is that no church shall be allowed not to employ practicing homosexuals. It also includes provisions against free speech.

The fact that you have no interest in manipulating the churches only shows how distant is your understanding from that of those who are manipulating you.

Date: 2009-05-27 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stigandnasty919.livejournal.com
I had not heard of this act, do you know if it is a government or private members bill?

Would it actually force a Church to perform Gay Marriages?

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