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Italy's performance has been shameful.
Having said that, there is nothing more ridiculous than the American bloggers who insist on repeating to each other that soccer is boring. Of course, four fifths of mankind are all wrong, and only a few hundred million Yanks are right. You people are like the proud mother at the army parade who said "everyone's out of step except my Jimmy." Say that it bores you, and nobody will question your taste; there are Italians and Brazilians who dislike soccer. Bit if you qualify it as boring, period, you simply certify your alienness from the human race.
Having said that, there is nothing more ridiculous than the American bloggers who insist on repeating to each other that soccer is boring. Of course, four fifths of mankind are all wrong, and only a few hundred million Yanks are right. You people are like the proud mother at the army parade who said "everyone's out of step except my Jimmy." Say that it bores you, and nobody will question your taste; there are Italians and Brazilians who dislike soccer. Bit if you qualify it as boring, period, you simply certify your alienness from the human race.
Speaking as a dry bob...
And surely your argumentum ad populam is fallacious? After all, were you the last surviving RC in the world, that shouldn't cause you to doubt the truth of your professions, I can't think.
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Barring cricket, there is.
Re: Barring cricket, there is.
Lot of people in the subcontinent, you know.
Re: Lot of people in the subcontinent, you know.
We've established that.
If 'it' is the argument from popularity: what it is to me: an informal fallacy.
If 'it' is your having 5,000,000,000 friends: what it is to me: a pleasant and wholly incredible surprise, dear boy. I'd not thought you quite that popular, by yr own account - however deserving, of course.
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I have rarely...
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The picture remains, however, a great example of overlap of sports and religious fervor.
I sympathise with the wish, and yet....
If you dont use your hands is it really a sport?
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Re: If you dont use your hands is it really a sport?
Hoping that "you people" is only referring to the aforementioned bloggers
The American bloggers who lambast soccer as "boring" are not representative of the indifferent masses. They are probably just trying to cover their bemusement at its popularity during World Cup time. It's only boring because it has not saturated the national/regional consciousness (and feelings of pride associated with it) the way that football/baseball/etc. have.
This comes from someone who finds most, if not all sports, incredibly boring to watch. And I find it silly when people attach personal feelings of pride/shame/hate/love to favored teams. But I admit that I have been following the results of the World Cup avidly, mostly due to the element of nationalism present in such a large-scale event.
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As for me, I love most sports, but soccer is also a matter of national pride. I may post about it in the future, though of course I don't expect you to change your tastes just because of that.
Didnt know I was quoting Carlin
I actually am with sanscouronne in the 'indifferent' wing
though soccer when viewed in the flesh does look a little
silly to me - mind you, I've only seen kids pay it at the local
park. Since about the age of 20 I can endure watching any
televised sport for more than a few minutes.
" failing to see the difference between local habit, however pleasant, and universal value."
Of course and this can be a serious fault if you can't keep a sense of humor about the whole thing.
I do understand why some Americans are hostile to the massive coverage given the World Cup; whether it is or not it looks like a calculated attempt to denigtate traditional American sports by exalting one that has no real constituency in this country save among kids amd Moms. Why are they so anxious for us to get excited about this?
"The Metric System in Short Pants", one blogger wrote about soccer, and while I'm tepid about any sport
I understand exactly how he feels.
Enjoy yourself, though. Your passion for the game is entirely admirable, given the deep roots it has sunk in your country.
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A lover of American football once tried to intellectually explain its appeal along the lines that it is a tactically sophisticated game. As long as visions of screaming masses, drunkenness, and other unappealing social gatherings pervade my overall impression of most sports, I do not think that such explanations will be very effective.
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There's no "who started it" at this point... joining it in medias res, it's:
Your football isn't real football! -> Soccer is boring! -> Your football is just wimpy rugby! -> Soccer players are cheats! -> Yanks aren't smart enough to understand the game!
We could keep going, but let's not.
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