Date: 2011-09-09 04:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
t that would allow churches and other religious venues to perform same-sex unions if they choose.

Operative words, IF THEY CHOOSE.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Wrong three times over. First, to the British ruling class choice means the exact opposite of its dictionary meaning. Second, the Churches cannot choose to change the meaning of a sacrament. Third, when a lawmaker speaks of law he implies the threat of punishment. Please come down from your clouds.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Well, I don't think any Catholic can condone gay marriage, so cannot imagine it ever being performed in a Church, and surely the government can't force them? What would even be the point?

Date: 2011-09-09 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
"Surely the government can't force them"????????????????

Earth calling [personal profile] shezan. Earth calling [personal profile] shezan. Please make a route for home, you are in danger of drifting beyond touch. Kindly study the history of your own country if you want to see how a government can't force the Catholic Church.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
By the way, this is not about the Catholic Church alone. Watch what happens with the Evangelical majority in the Church of England if and when the Government lickspittles start on what they are now already clearly contemplating.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Actually, I should not have allowed you to set the position. The operative fact is that someone who dares call himself a conservative should have set out such a proposal. That is a display of repulsive intellectual dishonesty such as I cannot countenance under any guise. This man is the rankest kind of progressive moron, with no understanding of what he wants to dismantle, driven by prejudices in place of thought, incapable of moral courage but eager to be "in the van of progress". The notion that such creatures can be found in a party that claims a conservative identity should be simply bewildering to any mind in touch with reality. I have been very rude to Peter Hitchens of late, but where the Tories are concerned he is one of the few people who call things as they are.

Date: 2011-09-09 06:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Oh, my objection to Dave is that he's not a true Tory, and I still mourn the Days Of The Blessed Margaret...

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