So a scummy murderess gets off scot free
Oct. 4th, 2011 02:57 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I haven't been this disgusted at my country since 1982, when we betrayed Britain over the Falklands. (The British won, too, which means that Italy got nothing for its betrayal of an ally except shame and disgrace. But then Italians are like that: they are always at their most stupid when they think they are being crafty.) The Meredith Kercher murder was one of the most squalid and cruel events in recent memory, and the guilt of Knox and Sollecito was obvious to anyone who could read. So that is how you get off with murder: be pretty, have a shameless and prosperous family who sets up a media circus on your behalf among gullible American hacks, and manage to look pathetic every time you are on screen. Then evidence be damned. Well, the need for wide structural reform of Italian justice has been cryingly obvious for decades, but this proves once and for all that a moral reformation is even more desperately needed. Nobody who took their oath to justice seriously for two minutes could ever have released such a sentence. When the Supreme Court hears the inevitable prosecution appeal and finds Knox guilty as they have to, she and her accomplices will be mocking at us from her bolthole across the ocean. And her victim can rest in her grave - abused, forgotten and unavenged.
Re: My Two Cents
Date: 2011-10-04 08:42 am (UTC)I'm not in support of Knox, and in rereading my post, I can see how it can come across as condescending, but honestly, the two articles are so wildly divergent in their details I'm just shocked someone, anyone, would print such nonsense. That's why I'm curious about your take on the issue in relation to the segment I posted.
And while I read 'Rolling Stone' with every inch of skepticism they've earned, I read Coulter the same (don't forget, this women once claimed a soldier who lost limbs at the battle of Khe Sahn did so on "a beer run"), which is what left me scratching my head at the seemingly inconpatible versions of the events that are related. You'll note I wrote that the 'RS' article painted her innocent from the get-go, offering the "real" details of the crime before bringing Knox in and one of those naive Americans who got convicted because, well, you read what was written.
You're a much more balanced source of data, and I read your opinions seriously, so my question was about why you think a magazine, which is a respected publication on this side of the pond, would paint such a portrait of Knox.
Re: My Two Cents
Date: 2011-10-04 09:06 am (UTC)Like I said and repeated, Italian justice is in dire need of reform; but not because some ignorant American does not understand the rules of procedure and is outraged that they are not the same as in Petaluma. One of the main issues which may need looking at is the way that almost every trial can be taken to appeal and then to the Supreme Court (Corte di Cassazione). In effect, it is commonplace for Italians not to regard any serious matter as actually judged (passata in giudicato) unless it has reached the Supreme Court. This not only means that trials take ages, but also that the Court of Appeals, reduced to the level of an intermediate stage between original and final sentence, loses responsibility and consequently self-respect. The worst and most outrageous miscarriages of justice typically happen at the appeals stage, and this is absolutely typical. But I don't suppose your brilliant Stone "journalist" knew that, did he?
Re: My Two Cents
Date: 2011-10-04 04:55 pm (UTC)I went and reread the article and, just to demonstrate the completely contradictory nature of the situation, here's Rich, from the 'Rolling Stone' piece:
"The police refused to break into Kercher's bedroom, claiming respect for the girl's privacy. But on Romanelli's insistence they relented, standing by while one of the bofriends, seizing the moment, kicked down the door."
And here's Coulter:
"Also highly suspicious, when the police first arrived and Knox was the only roommate there, she lied to them, driving them away from Meredith's locked bedroom door by assuring them that Meredith always locked her door, even to go to the bathroom.
So the police continued to investigate the alleged burglary and ignored Meredith's room, until Filomena arrived, found out Meredith's door was locked and demanded the police break it down, telling them -- contra Knox -- that Meredith never locked her door."
Rich: "During Sollecito's interview, investigators accused him of covering up for Knox. He asked for a lawyer, and to speak with his father, but his requests were denied. 'Confused and nervous,' as one of the officers described him, Sollecito finally stated that Knox could have left his apartment for several hours on the night of Kercher's murder while he was asleep."
Coulter, on the other hand, writes that it was "Sollecito's admission that it was a lie" that Knox stayed at his house all night.
There are others: According to Rich, Knox wasn't in the house that night, and signed a confession she couldn't read, and gave out the club owner's name because of an intense session in which she was physically hit by the police.
So when I read such wildly varying accounts, with Coulter (who I think you'll admit is more than willing to be bold at the expense of accurate) making these claims, I have to admit I was skeptical of her position.
This is not to say I believe Rich, whose cart before the horse reasoning and fawning view of Knox read at times as downright unprofessional. It reads far more like propeganda than investigative journalism.
But as I am utterly ignorant of the Italian legal system, I thought it best to ask someone whose opinions I respect and knows more about this issue than I do, as I'm far more curious at this point on WHY people are defending her than her guilt.
Re: My Two Cents
Date: 2011-10-04 08:32 pm (UTC)Re: My Two Cents
Date: 2011-10-05 10:10 pm (UTC)Here's the article, in case you're curious:
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627
And another, which is, I would argue, even worse:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2011/09/my_amanda_knox_obsession.html