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I am not a lawyer and I thank God for that, but frankly, only a lawyer (or a political obsessive) could seriously treat the "purchase" of health care in the same light as the "purchase" of broccoli. And as the concept of health care did not exist in 1776, the notion that it is unconstitutional is about as helpful as to declare that the Moon landings were unconstitutional.

To me, this has the same feel as the American unwillingness or incapacity to contemplate serious legal reform - such as the introduction of a system of Administrative Justice such as most Code Napoleon countries have - and admit that new areas of life and experience have arisen. On the one hand, the monstrous complexity and private-only nature of Obamacare makes it unlikely to succeed in the long run; on the other, if the Republicans imagine that there is a majority for what America has now in the way of healthcare, they are living on the Moon.

The worst thing from my point of view is that while an Obama victory would mean a clash of State and Church not seen in a free country since the Combes government in France, on the other hand the Church's social doctrine has no friends among the Republicans and would mean that any alliance with them to resist Obama and his cohort of Church-hating harridans such as Sebelius and Pelosi would be dangerous and deceptive. Plus, the Republicans have seen fit to choose the worst possible candidate... at this point, I can't see a positive outcome.

Date: 2012-06-29 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsofblue.livejournal.com
FYI, arguing with [profile] jordan179 is a pointless and frustrating exercise. You've lived with socialized medicine all your life, and I've lived with it for 15 years, until I moved back to the U.S. We both know it works, but Jordan will not accept any point of view that does not agree with his. I have very mixed feelings on the PPACA (commonly called Obamacare even though it was created by Republicans), but he is only capable of black and white thinking. You are very, very Catholic and pro-life; I know this from reading you in the past. I know you would not be pleased at anything that violated the "seamless garment" of Catholic "gospel of life".

Date: 2012-06-29 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
You don't always argue only with those you agree with. I value Jordan's intelligence and civility, which is not, alas, shared by all his friends. And every now and then I don't really mind to be in the middle of the internet version of a pub brawl. There is something rather stimulating about having to throw a strong answer to one person after the other as they line up to blast at you.

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