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fpb ([personal profile] fpb) wrote2012-09-21 06:42 am

So my friend John C.Wright does not understand why "the video" created so much scandal

Let's see if we can help him a bit. We have a very rich man (although Romney's wealth can be exaggerated; he is not as rich, for instance, as Berlusconi, or as the average Russian or Arab crook, or indeed as his host during the fund-raiser where "the video" was shot). We have him sitting along with very many other very rich men, who have paid a small fortune to be there - none of us plebs welcome. We have him telling these people that he "does not care" - his words - for anyone who, for whatever reason, cannot afford to pay Federal income tax - such people are all spongers (all, the sick, the underpaid, the disabled, the old, the members of the military... all spongers) who depend on the State and therefore will vote with their wallet. Such people, of course, have no values to appeal to, no ambition, and no life except for the money (such enormous amounts, to be sure!) they get from the State; they make no contribution, pay no other tax, do no service - they are, one and all, thieves and scroungers. But still, even though he does not care for them, he wants to be President over them, and for this purpose he wants his fellow very rich people to give him lots of lovely lovely lolly to spend on purchasing the presidency. (His, evidently, was enough to purchase the Republican nomination against better men, but he still needs more.)

At which point I, as a person who would not be paying Federal income tax in the United States of America, beg to inform Mr.Romney that he has blown every last chance not only of my ever voting for him for so much as dog catcher, but even of not crossing the street if I see the bastard coming.

[identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
one of the best responses I've seen as to why his statements were so odious.
This election for me is just depressing. I've got a friend who has pretty much given up and won't vote. She explained it to me by saying "It's like being starving and going to the fridge and finding I have spoiled chicken and spoiled pork. Either one I choose is going to make me sick."

Me I'm just gonna vote third party in the hopes of keeping our struggling third parties on the table -_-

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
My candidate was Santorum, whom of course you would not have voted for for a number of reasons. But I think we will agree that he was a more honest and principled man than Mitt Happens, and that he would not have treated poorer Americans as scroungers. Here, however, is a reaction from a Republican lawmaker you're going to love (even though you'd disagree with her on most things): http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2012/09/the-real-welfare-queens-the-overbearing-election-buying-congress-owning-almighty-money-men/
Edited 2012-09-21 07:16 (UTC)

[identity profile] eliskimo.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
After my recent post about my struggle to even get to a starting point on understand the issues of the current election, another friend posts a link to an old article from The Atlantic about the deliberate obfuscation of politics by the American media. It certainly explained a lot to me.

Unfortunately, I never really got a handle on understanding Rick Santorum. At the time, I had a rabid Santorum-hater as a Facebook friend (someone who has since un-friended for completely unrelated reasons) and I got a daily does of bile and slurs (such as the Dan Savage "definition"). I also had a vocal Santorum supporter friended on FB, but I was consistently disappointed in trying to get real answers from him - he seemed more interested in campaign slogans.
Edited 2012-09-21 13:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Santorum was in the crossfire because of being Catholic pretty much across the board, and not just, like Paul Ryan, with a bizarre compromise between Ayn Rand and the Church. This means that he was utterly hated by the gay lobby and all their supporters (and what the silly gays don't understand is that they are being used as a tool by a much larger coalition that would just as soon hand them to the mullahs if they saw an advantage in that) and equally loathed by the so-called "fiscal conservatives" as a "statist". In point of fact he was what once would have been a pretty straight Christian Democrat in Europe, conservative on moral values, suspicious of big business, eager to help the disadvantaged, and a touch patronizing. The fact that he was so consistent, and across such a large range of enmities, and still came within an inch of the nomination shows that he fought a better campaign than people gave him credit for.

[identity profile] almario javier (from livejournal.com) 2012-11-14 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Sir, you do know that Hamilton is a Democrat. A conservative Democrat, but a Democrat.

[identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that was stupid and I owe her my apologies. However,my admiration for her is pretty nearly boundless, and when I told her she should run for President, I meant it.