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I have defriended [personal profile] asakiyume and [personal profile] sartorias over their repulsive reaction to the defeat of their party on Proposition 8 in California. Their reaction was to blame it all on the supposed interference of a particular religious group. The truth, in fact, is that all major religious groups in the state campaigned aggressively for the proposition, and that voters against it included a large majority of black voters. However, to blame Catholics is unfashionable, to blame Jews un-PC, and to blame Muslims unhealthy. So these ladies, in common it seems with a lot of their kind of persons, managed to find the perfect novel religious scapegoats: the Mormons. Now I have no sympathy for Mormonism as a religion, but I can tell scapegoating when it offends my nostrils, and I was utterly revolted to find people whom I really believed decent human beings indulge in this kind of talk. Any other person on my f-list subscribing to Mormon conspiracy theories, please defriend yourselves and save yourselves some grief.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 8bitbard.livejournal.com
Calls for legislation against the Mormons have already begun: http://lds501c3.wordpress.com/

I expect many churches to be bankrupted or at least seriously damaged in the coming decades over such matters. All hail Progress. None shall defy.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
This from the same state that tolerates the really evil and damaging cult of Scientology. Really, trouble with one's backside or vagina leads you to do strange things.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
In fact, now that you have a "community organizer" in the White House with the sinister figure of Rahm Emanuel by his side, you can expect the action to flow right from the top. We are going to get some serious Separation of Church and State here, folks! As in, the Church on the moon, and the State in full charge. Watch priests being taken to federal prison for the coming federal crime of refusing to "marry" homosexuals. Well, at least my former friends will be happy.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 8bitbard.livejournal.com
And expect Catholic hospitals to be shut down under FOCA. All hail Progress. None shall defy.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Oh no. You forget the devotion to duty of Catholic administrators and university leaders. Greater love hath no man than this, that he should lay down his God for his career. And a nice touch of holy water after your abortion, madam?
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Date: 2008-11-07 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Freedom Of Choice Act, which Obama promised to sign as soon as he is in office. Removes every possible obstacle to abortion up to the ninth month, including parental notification or conscientious objection, makes abortion free at taxpayer expense, and protects abortionists from criticism. It would for all practical purposes outlaw every possible way to resist abortion.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
No church will, or should, be forced to marry people against their principles. Legal same-sex marriage will not mandate churches to do so. These marriages will be civil ceremonies only, which grant the legal protections of marriage from the state as they already do for heterosexual couples.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 8bitbard.livejournal.com
You're right about the "should" part, but as for the "will" part - well, just take a look at Canada.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
Thank you for letting me know. I had not realized that.

Date: 2008-11-07 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 8bitbard.livejournal.com
Here are some details: http://ezralevant.com/2008/10/alberta-hrc-christians-have-no.html

I haven't yet heard of clergymen being forced to perform gay ceremonies, but they have been forced to shut up or pay the price, which is hardly any different.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I see you still believe in fables.

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