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Before anyone has so much as began to see the end-game of the Murdoch scandals - which, let us remember, arise entirely from the criminal behaviour of Murdoch and his employees, behaviour which was known to be criminal and has been so for decades - a number of conservatives are yelping about left-wing conspiracies and assaults upon freedom of the press. Well, apart that the most monstrous assault upon the freedom of the press ever mounted was Rupert Murdoch's, don't you think, my dear people, that you should wait for any actual evidence of any such plot to arise, before you dedicate pages upon pages of yelping conspiracy theories to it? All you are showing right now is that you fear that without the mafia protection of this criminal, your views might not get a hearing. Well, perhaps I am in a privileged position: as a social conservative, whose views would never have got a hearing in Page Three land, I definitely have nothing to lose by the collapse of this champion of wickedness. But I would say that this instinctive display of fear suggests a lack of confidence in one's own beliefs and a psychological dependence on criminality and subversion that certainly does not speak well for anyone who holds it. If your views are correct, they shall be proven so. Meanwhile, be grateful that your side, whatever it is, has been cleared from a destructive and corrupting influence.

Edited InDaniel Hannan talking sense. The mind reels. But perhaps his fellow Thatcherits will pay attention. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100096817/the-phone-hacking-scandal-is-not-a-leftist-conspiracy-for-heavens-sake/

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Few sensible commenters have alleged that the final set of exposures that at last saw off the NotW - wh were those of the Grauniad and of the Torygraph - were a leftist plot; and of course DanHan is perfectly right, as almost always, in what he says.

That politicians of all parties are however conspiring to make use of the scandal to reduce press freedom, however, is incontrovertibly evident, and there is nothing wrong with saying so. As for the idea that those who do say so are acting from a sudden access of fear at losing the protection of criminality, your tone is objectionable, and your thesis, contemptible.

Considering that the lady whose picture you wear welcomed said protection, I think I have every right to say exactly what I said; adding that I find it singular (for this is not about you or you alone, my good sir) that something like townhall.com should have not a single column about the enormous events of the last few weeks until the ridiculous Emmett Tyrell came in to say exactly what you say is not being said, that is, that it's all a left-wing plot.

Your example of what is being said is an American hack?

Also, are you seriously saying that Lady Thatcher, when PM, 'welcomed the protection' of what you call a criminal enterprise? Sounds libellous to me, as well as utter balls.

In that case, I suggest you charge Private Eye with libel. MT's close friendship with The Sun's Larry Lamb was all over the mag. As for the intimate relationship between The Sun and the Thatcher government - much closer than that with traditional allies such as the Mail - you must have deleted it from your memory, but I haven't.

Your spin is largely yr own.

Look, I don't want to quarrel with you, but you are trying to defend an indefensible position. NO history of the Thatcher years will be able to avoid the intimate part of The Sun in the Thatcher project. I remember it as if it were yesterday - the electoral budgets announced with "What A Lot You've Got" across the front page, the privatizations announced with "Fill Yer Boots", and so on. It was, indeed, The Sun what won it, what made all the difference, because it and Thatcher were soulmates.

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You are conflating, I hope inadvertently, two issues.

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Do let me be certain I understand you.

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I remember the FACTS perfectly, my good man.

Re: I remember the FACTS perfectly, my good man.