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...but moral relativists are at the bottom, where they belong.

Parents who bring squalling brats to R-rated movies, fashion and fashionistas, Paris Hilton, Philosophers for sale to the highest bidder, Creationists, Journalists for sale to the highest bidder, academic comformists
Circle I Limbo

Eminem, Liz Taylor, Militant Vegans
Circle II Whirling in a Dark & Stormy Wind

The European Parliament, American classical musicians, Shit-stirring pseudo-Catholics
Circle III Mud, Rain, Cold, Hail & Snow

big media, corrupt Italian football management, union-busters, apologists for big business, John Major, anyone who works for Rupert Murdoch
Circle IV Rolling Weights

The corrupt members of the European Commission whom the European Parliament waved through
Circle V Stuck in Mud, Mangled

River Styx

Theological so-called liberals
Circle VI Buried for Eternity

River Phlegyas

Bill Gates, Silvio Berlusconi, NAMBLA Members, Objectivists, Rupert Murdoch, Baroness Hilda Margaret Thatcher of Grantham
Circle VII Burning Sands

PETA Members, Scientologists
Circle IIX Immersed in Excrement

Saddam Hussein, Uday Hussein, Osama bin Laden, moral relativists
Circle IX Frozen in Ice

Design your own hell

Date: 2005-01-05 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
That there are different ways of looking at an elephant, at Mount Everest, or for that matter at a fruit fly, does not mean that there are more than one elephant, Mount Everest, or fruit fly. To the contrary, the very form of the sentence implies that the thing being looked at is the same, only the position of the onlookers (and for that matter their ability to see) being different.

Date: 2005-01-05 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com
Yes, but morality is somewhat more complex than an elephant, Mount Everest or a fruit fly. What you're looking at isn't always clear. As you said, morality can be hard to establish, which means that is some ares you'll never really know if you're right or not. Some morals are, or should be, true for everyone - such as robbing old ladies. Whichever way you look at it, that's gotta be wrong, right? Other issues, however, aren't quite as clear-cut. (Don't worry, I'm not trying to stir you up - just trying to establish the difference between pluralism and relativism. I've had it explained to me, and I KNOW there's a difference - but I'm having a good deal of truoble expressing myself.)

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