Insanity

Sep. 19th, 2011 10:04 am
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http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/18/my-money-i-deserve-to-keep-it-all/
Yes, look at those words. Someone really imagines that he has made the world, given himself birth, created the regulated and protected environment in which he operates, granted his father and mother the great privilege of giving him birth and spending immense amounts of their time and effort bringing him up, policed the streets so that he could go to work safely, set up the opportunity to work profitably, produced everything involved in the transactions, and, above all, created a regulated and lawful environment in which work could be carried out and its results peacefully claimed without dispute or seizure. Someone, in short, imagines that anything in the world is really "his".

A further depth of delirium lies in the probability that this same maniac also imagines himself to be Christian.

It is not I, it's not even Socrates or any other sage, who answers him - and ought to silence him, if he were sane: it's Scripture. And here I will use text-proofing, since there is no doubt that this passage is at the heart of Christian thought. First letter to the Corinthians, chapter 4, verse 7: For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? What is Christianity about, if not gratitude: gratitude to God for creating us, but also gratitude to each and every one of the hundreds of people and things to whom we owe debts we shall never repay? Did you make yourself? No. Did you ask to be born? No. In that case, accept that you are a part of a community, of a descent and of a state of public order, to which you owe so much that if it did not exist you would not exist either.

(I will add that if you are insane enough to think that you owe nothing to anyone but yourself, you make yourself incapable of friendship, of companionship, of all the things that humans need as much as they need air and water. But that would be to try to reason, and you cannot reason with a madman.)

This moron argues that the individual comes before the State. That is not only false - no individual predates the society they live in - but stupid: it is a chicken-and-the-egg question. The State and the individual come together, as part of a whole. Every man is born into a community, for otherwise he would not be born at all. Every community has a law and an authority to enforce it, and to which individuals resort in distress or perplexity; nobody, but nobody, does everything by himself. I am willing to bet that our lunatic, if anyone ever did anything that he interpreted as a violation of his rights, would not hesitate a second to race for the nearest lawyer and the nearest court. And yet he claims to owe nothing to the State.

But that would be reasoning, and there is no reasoning with madmen. And thanks to the crazed talk of the Tea Party, who can't imagine why others would see them as near-terrorists, a good deal of the American right is in a state of clinical insanity. I just hadn't seen it stated quite so baldly before.

Re: Let's hear from all precincts

Date: 2011-09-19 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Third point: no individual pre-exists society, and society has to exist for any individual to have any rights. That is because the recognition of rights and duties is simply the way in which society deals with the individual. It is in so far as a human being lives with other human beings that he has rights and duties - emphasis on DUTIES; we hear far too much about "rights" in our time anyway. The very notion of liberty means nothing whatsoever to Robinson Crusoe, unless and until he meets Man Friday.

Re: Let's hear from all precincts

Date: 2011-09-19 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
And if you have an issue with that, tell me what Jefferson and the founder meant by claiming that "all men are created equal?" Certainly not that they are created the same; and indeed they qualified their statement immediately by saying "and endowed by their Creator with certain [and] inalienable rights". That is, all men are equal in the way that society is to treat them, in the way that the law is to deal with them, in the way that they consider and deal with each other. That is, equality of rights presupposes a society. What would that mean to Robinson Crusoe? He would have no rights, because he could claim nothing from anyone; and no duties, because nobody could claim anything from him. The desire to survive, which is the driving force of Robinson until he meets Man Friday, is neither a right nor a duty, but an urge.

Re: Let's hear from all precincts

Date: 2011-09-19 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
And if you have a problem with the distinction between duty and urge, I will point out to you that hunger - the most immediate and basic of urges - does not imply either that bread is or can be got, nor that anyone will feed you. You may simply go on hungering till you starve. The right to life is an entirely different thing, which only comes into effect when there is a legal order to whom one can appeal to enforce it. In other words, the right to life refers, not to the urge to go on living, but to the duty of an existent social order to prevent unnecessary death. It presupposes society, social order, and law.

Re: Let's hear from all precincts

Date: 2011-09-19 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ihuitl.livejournal.com
"It is in so far as a human being lives with other human beings that he has rights and duties - emphasis on DUTIES."

Now you're speaking my language. People come together in groups to help each other, and I was born with a debt to those who came before me who laid the groundwork for the life I have. Family, community, peers, etc. Recognition of this spurs me to serve others in the same way, for we are all in this together.

The state and society, the government and markets, are intertwining cogs that need and give context to each other. When people scoff at the notion of "country" or "state" or "public" I may simply tell them, "but...those things include YOU."

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