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Well, England has pulled the rope once too often and it broke. A few days ago I called the English hatred of Europe a mental illness; now we see it in full swing. The sulphurous pleasure that seems to dominate even GUARDIAN Comment-Is-Free columns seems to me wholly impossible to understand. These people imagine that a country of sixty million people can "renegotiate", to its own advantage its membership of a club of 28 countries and 400,000,000 people. One does not have to have a deep knowledge of the fact to call this an insane, out-of-touch-with-reality, diseased ideation.

Even worse, the final blow of the English knife could not have come at a worse time. Every European leader will feel that Cameron tried to blackmail them as they were struggling for the life of the European project. No wonder nobody wanted to speak with him this morning. Nigel Farage drew attention to President Sarkozy's fury, but I would be more worried about what must be an equally intense rage from Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel. It's not just that she is, by everyone's acknowledgement, the most powerful person in Europe (give or take her fellow-countryman in the Vatican); it is that, as Silvio Berlusconi found out, fat, easily-mocked little Angela, with her frumpy one-size-too-small pants suits (and by the height of misfortune Hilary Clinton around to show how they should be worn) and her inability to speak any language but her own, is someone who makes you pay. Sarkozy may be here today and gone tomorrow, blown about by his mercurial energy, but Angela Merkel can and will remember. If she could end the apparently bomb-proof career of Europe's biggest scoundrel, she can certainly make any British politician regret the day they were born.

What do these people expect? The first demand to renegotiate British membership will be met by a series of actively damaging regulations that will cut European capital off from the City. Do they seriously think otherwise? You cannot negotiate to your advantage unless you are holding a really big stick, and England has none. English business, English exports, the English public and private accounts, none of them are anything worth writing home about. The only thing that stands out is the City, and exclusion from Europe will certainly damage that. Even granting that it can keep the confidence of the Russian, Arab and other third world billionaires who still flock to London with their more or less lawfully acquired wealth, to be left to trust on that sort of people would make the City an even dodgier-looking place than it is today. They speak of Switzerland; but Switzerland, apart from the ancient treaties that guarantee her neutrality, never left the impression of despising Europe and everything in it, and never used a moment of crisis to stab the Union in the back.

England's relationship with Europe is pathological

Date: 2011-12-09 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I do beg your pardon. But I felt the same blast of crazed joy not only from Mail and Telegraph but even from several comments in Comment Is Free. Unfortunately, there are more Englishmen who think like this than either of us would like - certainly enough to win an election.

Date: 2011-12-10 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaceanjl.livejournal.com
The Press exists to sell itself. And now the Internet allows all kinds of faceless twits to mouth off without engaging brain, or facing consequences.

Human beings as a whole are greedy, venal and stupid, and easily manipulated by the tools of fear and faith. But a majority of them would just like to live their lives quietly, without the dick swinging and sabre waggling. I'm with Douglas Adams on the idea that nobody who wants to be in power should be allowed anywhere near it.

Date: 2011-12-10 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Yes, but in order to sell there have to be people who buy it; and that means that the kind of views espoused in the Daily Jail and the Torygraph must be common enough to sell papers on. Right? Of course, right.

As for the Douglas Adams line, it's a good joke, but it would never work. Imagine a world where anyone who wanted to be a dentist would be prevented from being one. I think I would rather let people decide what careers they want.

Date: 2011-12-10 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabethea.livejournal.com
in order to sell there have to be people who buy it; and that means that the kind of views espoused in the Daily Jail and the Torygraph must be common enough to sell papers on.

It's interesting, isn't it: do papers affect values or values affect papers? And it's a bit of both, so it becomes self-fulfilling.

For example, the Daily Fail says Europe is terrible and brings up some reasons why. Now, they may be reporting truths - often they are - but by not giving the whole picture they are distorting the picture thoroughly. (Like when someone says "Five people were caught bringing illegal drugs into the country in the space of an hour!" and fails to say that "Fifty thousand people came in during that time and WEREN'T bringing drugs...") And one then notices the things which fit in with one's world view, and become further convinced that That Viewpoint Is The Only Correct One, especially when it's backed up in the paper you read...

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