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The Cuckoo: your dogma has no bearing whatever on historical fact, of which you are woefully ignorant. The sad thing is the cheerful confidence with which you retail the same old legends. For instance, the vast majority of early churches was built well away from pagan sites. You may have some fourth-hand notion of Gregory I's libellus responsorum to Augustine of Canterbury, allowing him to take over and adapt local rituals; but the fools who long ago added that item to the usual roster of rationalist cliches did not realize that Gregory meant that permission as an exception. IN point of fact, the transformation of pagan holy places into Christian churches is so rare, even in England (which is what Gregory was speaking about), that a special place-name for this kind of site was invented: Harrow (hence Harrow-on-the-Hill and so on). Apart from anything else, pagan temples in general did not meet the needs of Christian churches, such as meeting halls able to hold hundreds of faithful and burial areas in the immediate proximity. (Pagans always buried their dead outside the city walls, and never in sight of a temple.)

In short, I would tell you not to talk of what you don't know, but the trouble is that your situation is worse: you are ignorant and think you know.
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I charged Hijja with saying that the Catholic Church began in 1521 - that is, with the Lutheran schism; implying that the entity that existed before then was different in essence from the one that exists now. I have now looked it up and realized that she did not in fact say that. Mind you, what she said - that the Church before Luther was "the universal Church," meaning undivided - is pretty nearly as wrong. Three great schisms had sliced the East away from her: the Nestorian schism, which lost Persia and missionary areas as far as China and possibly even Japan; the Monophysite, which lost Egypt, Ethiopia, Syria, Armenia and a missionary field reaching to India; and the Orthodox, which drove her out of the Greek and Russian lands, much of Eastern Europe, and most of the surviving Catholic communities in the Muslim East. For a long time it cannot even be said that the Catholic Church was necessarily the largest Christian Church. But at least it is not quite as bad as to imagine that the distinctive Catholic identity only began with Luther.

I would still like to see KH writing a love story, however.

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