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The fandom can be a nasty place. I just had the unpleasant experience of getting to know a woman who is, one, a skank, and, two, proud of it. Ugly. It's like trying to make a slug understand that leaving a slimy trail behind is nothing to be proud about.

Date: 2005-08-04 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
It reflects the "real world" with its Gaussian distribution: most people are so-so and then you find a small numbers of peple disgusting and people great.

As for the snails, fom their POV, a proper slim trail can be proud-worthy: next snail will have an easier passage or will be able to catch up with the news on who's around by the trails' smells or something. Imagine a snail, bravely advancing a large polished stone withut knowing if there's a patch of green on the other end to replenish the slime... Columbus's must have similar attitude.

And before I (finally) shut up: you were talking about ladies' eyes... What about Mila Jovovich?

Date: 2005-08-04 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
To be honest, I never thought of her much. It so happens that I have never seen any of her movies, more by chance than by any other reason. Incidentally, a small personal beef. In almost every movie about St.Joan of Arc that I have seen, the warrior saint was played by some tall and robust young lady, from Milla to Ingrid Bergman. But the real Joan was tiny; her armour, which is preserved in an aristocratic house in England, shows that she was five foot nothing (one metre fifty), which even then was not much. And I am willing to bet that half the inspiring effect that she had was for everyone to see that tiny figure, upright on her horse and with no helmet, carrying a flag as big as her whole body. Who would not follow her to war?

Date: 2005-08-04 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
You didn't lose so much :) The Fifth Element is quite entertaining, as a light version of Blade Runner, but entertaining and that's all.

Is it really Joan's armour? How interesting. The people then were shorter, but still 5 feet is not much (Du Guesclin was also a shortie, wasn't he?). She was carrying a standard herself? It probably looked as if Standard was riding a horse by itself... But no standard bearer or was she a standard bearer?

Date: 2005-08-04 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Well, the one sketch from life (which I reproduced here, http://www.livejournal.com/users/fpb/105272.html) shows her carrying a sword as big as her whole body and a flag that is even bigger.

Date: 2005-08-04 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
Yes, I remember the portrait, v. interesting (is it a part of a larger picture or a separate piece?). My question was coming from the fact that it was customary to show impartant figure with flags and other insignia, as a mark of a person/position/function. Since I know only basic facts about Joan, I was curious if there exist any sources telling she was appointed Royal Standard Bearer or similar position.

Date: 2005-08-05 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I believe that it comes from the margin of a book, and that it is believed to be the writer's immediate reaction to actually seeing her in the street. Notice how carefully the monogram of Jesus on the flag is written; whoever it was who drew it was more used to handsome book lettering than to drawing.

Date: 2005-08-05 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
Indeed, the monogram is very careflly done - the author was a monk-scribe? Not unlikely. The picture is doubly interesting then - kind of a photo snapshot 700 years old... The whereabouts are unknown? She wears a curious mix of knight's (sword, very properly done, one can identify the type immediately; the drawer must have seen them a lot, too) and ladies attire. Her dress seems to be not a very plain one, but more of an elegant type - the frills below...
I wonder how significant is that she wears her long hair loose?

Date: 2005-08-04 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
Hey man, I work hard for my five bucks a handjob.

Date: 2005-08-04 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Booo! I believe you. Yes I do. Of course. Who could ever doubt you. Sure. Absolutely. No doubt. Quite. etc. etc. etc....

Date: 2005-08-04 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
No, really.

There's a one dollar peep show up the road from my work, though. Perhaps they accept resumes. I didn't graduate from hustlin' school for nothin', you know!

Date: 2005-08-04 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Watch it. Air America lurks on my LJ, and AA is notoriously without any sense of humour. You might be taken seriously.

Date: 2005-08-04 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
Air America. Heh.

No, I'm classier than a one dollar peep show. A three dollar peep show, maybe.

Date: 2005-08-04 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfachir.livejournal.com
You struggle for understanding puts me in the mood to write more of Slughorn's memoirs. (I didn't know you knew the word "skank" - one more scale drops from my eyes.)

Date: 2005-08-04 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Madame, how could I have spent two years in the fandom and not know that word?

Date: 2005-08-04 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfachir.livejournal.com
I'll have to start coloring you more colorful, then. Someday I'll get you to teach me to curse like a Brit. Maybe for my birthday.

Date: 2005-08-04 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
I'm close to spending two years in fandom and only this exchange prompted me to look for an exact meaning of the word.
Go, innocent me.

Date: 2005-08-04 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
Google 'Tara Reid' or 'Paris Hilton' and you should get a pretty clear definition.

Date: 2005-08-05 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com
Oh dear. I don't think even I've ever called anyone a skank, and I'm just four years out of high school... Suddenly, I feel so mature. (Though I have called someone a cow. And a bitch. And a skanky ho, though that was to a friend, to her face, and she knew I was joking.)

Date: 2005-08-05 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Well, I could have used whore, but then there would have been an implication that the person concerned was doing it for money. Or slut. Or tart. Well, there is a choice, anyway.

Date: 2005-08-05 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
A cornucopia of sleaze.

Date: 2005-08-05 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com
Well, while we're on the topic, I'm sure you've heard this one:

Q: What do you call a Spice Girl in a toaster?
A: A Pop-Tart!

*slaps thighs, giggles...*

Okay, it was funny when I was 13...

Date: 2005-08-05 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Very nineties. Poptarts and Spice Girls were invented at roughly the same time, as I recall.

Date: 2005-08-05 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Poptarts date from 1964. Off by a few decades there.

Date: 2005-08-05 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
I never saw them before about 1995. Little failure of marketing there.

Date: 2005-08-05 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bufo-viridis.livejournal.com
Eeem... What is a poptart? M-W doesn't show anything, bartleby too and I don't have subscription to OED.

Date: 2005-08-05 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
It is a kind of breakfast cake, rather like a sealed sandwich with sweet content, meant to be heated in the toaster. It is a "tart" (sweet cake) that "pops" (from the toaster). Obviously, British tabloids have taken to calling the likes of Britney and Christina by the term.

Date: 2005-08-05 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neigedens.livejournal.com
Dude, without Pop Tarts those kids I babysit would be dead right now.

No, really, they're little toaster pastries that come in a variety of flavors. I'm told they have about the nutritional value of cardboard. But they're easy, which is why they are worshipped by overworked moms and lazy babysitters everywhere.

Date: 2005-08-05 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They were everywhere in the '80's. Probably depends upon location, then.

Date: 2005-08-05 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
My times in the UK:
1977-78 Canterbury (Kent, UK)
1980-81, 84, 85-86, Oxford
1987-present, London.

Date: 2005-08-05 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Being as Kellogg's is originally an American company and some things are not marketed equally worldwide, that probably explains it.

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