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[fpb]

Something weird is going on about my last post. I would like to point out that I moved the debate to my LJ of my own free will, and exactly because I did not want to overburden someone else's with my own issues. However, it seems that now I am being asked to apologize to someone for something I have said that was felt to be offensive, at the same time as it is made impossible for me to even check what it was I said and why. In a word, I have no notion what I am being asked to do and why.

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[gunderpants.livejournal.com]

That was me. The apology was to the people you were less than courteous to on my own Lj regarding the topic, considering they certainly had no idea of being offensive or insulting to you with their original posts.

I know you're a nice person; I want other people to see that too, because sometimes you don't need this shit. But if that's going to happen you're going to have to start speaking to other people like you speak to me; you disagree with just about everything I think but somehow still manage to be unfailingly polite about it.

Relegate outbursts of anger to comparisons of being aborted chinese foetuses k?!

[gunderpants.livejournal.com]

This request still stands firmly, btw. If you don't abide rude posts in your LJ, I similarly don't in mine.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

I do it because you deserve it. There are people who do not, such as the piece of scum I just answered, who first completely lied about what I had said, and then had the impudence to condemn me for it. The best I can do about that is what I have done, which was take the debate away from your LJ and into my own. And look, I know that you are having a bad time, but I am too - to the tune of being £2500 in debt with no hope whatever of wrestling the equivalent sum from the State authority that ought to have paid it to me long ago. So I am a bit short-tempered right now - more than usual - and that may have affected things. I regret hurting you, but some people deserve that and more.

[gunderpants.livejournal.com]

I understand that, but there are people who you attacked completely unprovokedly; Snorkackcatcher, thistlerose, portkey, straussmonster; I had people emailing me asking wtf was going on. I don't stand for people being rude to others on my flist, especially those who should know better.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

I would have to see the other, but as for Straussmonster, she has more than asked for it. I do not like to come across her anywhere, and the opening of my posts to her will tell you why. Brutal bad manners, arrogance and self-centredness make a bad combination.

As regards that previous post,

[lyssiae.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure quite what all the fuss was about.

I mean, I'm not sure I agree with you - that's not what this comment is about in any event - but I don't think that your argument warranted the tone of some of the comments. It puzzles me.

Anyway. This was completely pointless. Hope you've got some nice weather!

Re: As regards that previous post,

[frelling-tralk.livejournal.com]

It was linked on fandom wank, so I think some of the comments were from people coming over to troll.

Re: As regards that previous post,

[lyssiae.livejournal.com]

Ah, ok, I see. Thanks for the explanation!

Re: As regards that previous post,

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Fact. And for historical reasons, I'm a troll magnet.

Re: As regards that previous post,

[fpb.livejournal.com]

My dear, there are people in fandom who have heard, mostly at seventh hand, terrible tales about me. They think I am this combination of Attila the Hun and Torquemada, and look for every occasion to attack me. What you have seen is fairly normal, once someone posts anything of mine on f_w or on any other backstabber thread.

[gunderpants.livejournal.com]

That I can agree with on adoption: I went to school with a Chinese girl who had possibly the most Australian sounding name in the universe.

Also, cos it may have been lost in the ether, I've also known some girls called Blaise too. But then again, I've also known girls called Fire and Lake.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

I answered your pseudo-points a million times, I will not do so again. YOur pathetic use of "ignorance" for "use of viewpoints I do not like" is typical of people who never learned to argue and want to silence their opponents. Kindly get out of my LJ and do not come back. Your comment will be deleted as redundant, stupid and intolerant.

[(Anonymous)]

All I said was I knew a black guy with an Italian first and second name - how is that redundant? Your arguement made it sound point blank that it's impossible for a black person to have an Italian name. That's not a viewpoint, it's a viewpoint that can be disproven by fact. Come to England, meet my boyfriend, see his passport - if it's ok for him to be Italian named and black then maybe JK isn't as whacked out as you think.

Viewpoints should always be open to alteration when presented with a logical arguement or reasonable proof ...

Jane Tillsley
Hull
UK

[fpb.livejournal.com]

You are a liar. I said that "for historical reasons, blacks with Italian names are rare"; you put the "impossible" shit in my mouth, and then condemn me for it. You are a rat, and, yes, ignorant. Stay away from this LJ until you have learned to read your opponent's words and answer them, instead of lying about what they said in order to knock down straw men that you set up.

[dreamer-marie.livejournal.com]

You know, come to think of it, I'm quite sure that Blaise was described as "dark", not black. Maybe he's a Southern Italian, and JKR meant "dark" as opposed to Weasley-pale?
Anyway, now not only you're known as homophobic and FAP-phobic, now you're also a really bad racist who thinks that Black people shouldn't have Italian names... One of these days you're going to write an essay about Dobby and you'll end up with a reputation for approving of slavery... I love you, Fabio.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, come to think of it, I'm quite sure that Blaise was described as "dark", not black.

No, you are wrong.

[Harry] recognized a Slytherin from their year, a tall black boy with high cheekbones and long, slanting eyes [Blaise Zabini]

Maybe he's a Southern Italian, and JKR meant "dark" as opposed to Weasley-pale?
Bitch, please. He's black.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Since dreamer_marie is not even me, I do not see why you should be rude to her. "Bitch" is a word I reserve for your likes. But then it looks like I had to deal with your brutality and arrogance in the past, since the anon probably means that you are banned from this LJ. And you have just shown why.

[dreamer-marie.livejournal.com]

Thanks, Fabio. It's OK, really. I don't care what an anonymous person thinks of me.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Thanks for at least seeing through the pathetic propaganda involved. You know, I really thought that the "I-hate-FPB" club had dissolved.

And remember how, only five months ago - at the time of the London bombings - you had candidly told me that you did not like me very much? There may be hope for all of us yet.

[dreamer-marie.livejournal.com]

Well, the only time I'd talked to you was when you attacked me about the Crusades and you refused to cite your references. I mean, I had read a book on the subject. It was written by a Christian Libanese guy, but apparently that wasn"t good enough for you.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I didn't see anything so terribly wrong about your post. Now, I disagree with some points, yes. But I think there is some unfair slander going on. I did not get a racist tone from you...at all.

Just wanted to pop in and say that.

[fpb.livejournal.com]

Many thanks. But why the Anon? Or are you someone with whom I had problems in the past? Anyway, I am grateful for your remarks.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh no. I just don't have livejournal yet and am a mere lurker.

But seriously, I think they were out of line with their accusations and I'm sorry that happened to you.

Best wishes,
Bella

[fpb.livejournal.com]

It happens once every two-three months, Bella. (By the way, I hope you deserve your name - Bella - Beautiful.) There are people in fandom who bear the scratches of past confrontations with yours truly - who was born in the month of the Lion of the year of the Tiger, and can scratch most fiercely - and would dearly love to tag me with any kind of defaming title, whether it be as a racist or as a paedophile. That is the sort of thing that happens when one has a combative personality.

If and when you start a LJ, I would like to friend you.