Reflections of a stormy petrel

Believe it or not, this sort of argument is not unheard of among young British females. If I wanted to, I might start collecting public statements under such a heading as: "I am NOT a tart, because..." Of course, this is just the dumb-bunny's version of the common contemporary illusion that reality is something you structure for yourself, and that "what is right for you is not necessarily right for me".

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My favorite came from my high school classmates: "I only hook up with strangers if we're both drunk -- that makes it OK"

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Well, not really: my favourite is crying over Terri Schiavo, but laughing to your buddies about all the women and children raped and enslaved in your Marianas Islands sweatshops. Then, of course, there's the leader of our centre-left opposition party here that constantly brags that it was his idea for mandatory detention of women and children.

Oh Tom Delay and Kim Beazley, will you never learn?

As far as the sex hypocrisy goes, it would probably be that gynaecologist spokesman who works for Focus on the Family who forcibly sodomised his own wife for thirty years. Oh, FoF, you are so classy.

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I think you have gone a bit out of the picture here. First, this woman is offering herself as the public face of a pornographer who has exploited women for fifty years. Second, whatever the public/private morality of this or that corporate body, that has absolutely nothing to do with all the women in this world who manage to find excuses to be whores. Or, as Mummy used to tell us all when we were children, one wrong does not justify another.

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Hey, I didn't say she wasn't a Skank on a Stick(tm). She's still remarkably stupid and lacking in foresight. You say all this stuff as though you're surprised that a young woman who once appeared to have a veneer of decency now utilises ye olde casting couch. Nobility isn't as alluring as it once was.

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Crikey, it's one in the morning and I'm still awake!... well, I'll sleep come daylight, on the plane to Rome - where I have to spend a couple of days. And well, what got me was not so much a nob being a whore - actually, the English upper classes have always produced the most accomplished and desirable pros in Europe - as her pretence that there was any difference between her and Abi Titmuss, who is an out-and-out whore.

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Like the battle between Jordan and Jodi Marsh and how they always say they're less of a whore than the other?

May Britain never cease turning out skanky page three celebrities for my own personal enjoyment.

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Not in the foreseeable future, anyway. But I insist that there is nobody in Britain as hilarious as Paris Hilton and her sister.

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Haha. Did you hear about her letter to the Queen begging to be allowed to be married in Westminster Abbey because she's "practically American royalty"?

As The Superficial pointed out, she only thinks she's royalty because she walks drunkenly around the streets with a tiara on her head. And as it so happens, wearing a tiara while drunk pretty much makes you the opposite of royalty.

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Ahh, Paris Hilton. My favourite celebrity-bashing target. Why is she famous? What does she do? What is she for? Is she really that dumb, or is that all part of the act? Would she still be popular if her IQ exceeded her shoe size? Ahh, the mysteries of the universe.

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Another question: is she beautiful? I don't think so. She is tanned, bleached, and exercised within an inch of her life, but look at her face - just her face, her features. Not up to much, would you say?

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Definitely not. She looks... kinda plastic. Well, a lot of these useless celebrities aren't particularly beautiful. They meet the modern criteria for "beauty" - such arbitrary factors as being tanned and thin. But she's not beautiful. No, I'll even go a step further: she's not interesting. The people I personally find most beautiful/attractive often don't meet the modern beauty criteria, but they have something about them that makes me look at them and want to draw them, or just want to look at them! And it might be something like the way their eyes crinkle when they smile, or just the fact that they do smile and it doesn't look painted on. Paris Hilton and other such people have been manufactured to look a certain way, and society in general accepts that as being "beautiful". But I think individually, we all see beauty somewhat differently.

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I do have a definite idea of beauty, and I actually published a couple of instances a few entries ago - Trine Michelsen and Nicola Cowper. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/fpb/103395.html) One common fact is strong, well-defined, expressive features - which is something Paris' face simply does not have.

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I dunno, my best friend and I have often had the "What's your type?" discussion. I've never been able to give a definite answer. I mean, sure, I can say that I like thin guys who aren't too muscly or hairy, but if you asked me about facial features I'd be at a loss. And the person I find most attractive in the world doesn't really fit any of the descriptions I might've given - unless of course I admit to the fact that secretly, my "type" are short nerdy guys with glasses and open smiles. :) "Beauty" is in many ways such a personal thing - we all have our own prefernces, and in the end, the most beautiful people we know are beautiful because of who they are and what they mean to us rather than what they look like.

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A giant hybrid between a stick insect and a vagina. I wouldn't tap it.

Now Naomie Harris - there's a real woman. I would desperately love to put her in a ring with Paris Hilton, if only because one is guaranteed to see Paris go down in every single respect: looks, talent, intellect, charisma, etc.

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Ugh, it's like Britney Spears' "I'm SUCH a virgin" act, which she has thankfully abandoned.

So, you think you look classy posing in Playboy? Sure, lady. Whatever you say.

You know what really pisses me off? Thinking about how much money idiots like this are earning.

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And given your looks, you have nothing but your principles to hold you back. I, at least, look ridiculous naked.

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Don't write yourself off, there's a market for just about every appearance... it's amazing what you can stumble onto on the internet.

But, you know, what pisses me off the most is somehow trying to justify porn as... oh, I dunno. Art? I mean... if you pose in Playboy, you're there for one reason only: so that guys who can't get laid (or even guys who can) can masturbate over your picture. That's the reality of it - don't try to pretend it's anything more, or perhaps less. It's not glamorous and it sure as hell isn't classy.

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I would not go quite so far. Playboy employs top photographers, and some of their series down the years have been truly beautiful. Photography, like painting, is an art where pornography can have artistic merit - to look at a supreme instance, take Velazquez's Rokeby Venus. Tell me it is not about sex, and tell me that it is not a supreme masterpiece. I do, however, agree with you that the model who takes her clothes off is not made one whit more classy or cultured by the experience. The art, in so far as there is any, is the photographer's.

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Ahh, but sex of course can be beautiful. I just find it hard to see that when I think about girls - or boys - taking their clothes off in front of photographers for money.

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At the same time, though, that's sorta under the assumption that every nude photograph is for the purpose of titillation (though no doubt some people will be titillated by anything, including those bare-breasted pygmies in the National Geographics).

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I repeat, look at the Rokeby Venus. It is about sex and nothing else. And it is a sublimely beautiful piece of painting.

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Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, so maybe she'd just better stick to posing...

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